[chirp_users] Max OSX Woes

Mon May 19 14:02:39 PDT 2014

Can always open a terminal and type   top   and see CPU and memory usage.
Can also type dmesg and look for any reoccurring odball kernel messages.

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Denis Dimick <dgdimick at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also run Chirp on a Mac, 5 or so years old, and have not noticed any
> lag, or "slowness".
>
> Try rebooting, closing ALL applications that may auto-start, and give it a
> try.  I suspect it's a problem with your Mac and not Chirp.
>
> Denis
>
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> There is no future until we settle our past...
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> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:
>
>> Other apps are slow on the mavericks system only, which is why the other
>> two are still ML systems and not mavericks.
>>
>> On the other two systems CHIRP is the only app that runs with poor
>> performance.
>>
>> I completely acknowledge that I may not have done something necessary to
>> achieve optimum performance,  and would like to discover what that is.
>>
>> Downgrading R10 to R6 of the python package did seem to increase the
>> responsiveness. I will be posting some videos to YouTube later today.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Jim McCorison <jimmcc at mccorison.com> wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I run Chirp, latest stable and daily builds, on an iMac with Mavericks
>> with great reliability and speed. I've not tried it on my MacBook Pro.
>> Given that you report that other apps "(Mail.app, Safari, and
>> VMWare/VirtualBox)" run poorly it would appear that the issue is with
>> either your MBP itself or the OS installation. I would suggest getting the
>> underlying problem resolved instead of focusing on Chirp.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jim
>>
>> Jim McCorison
>> Orcas Island, WA
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> IT's any file, Jens.
>>
>> If I go to File and then New and then type things in manually, by the
>> time I get to the third line, I'm already frustrated by the slow, laggy
>> response of the UI.
>>
>> -jre
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jens J." <kd4tjx at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can you provide the file that you are importing that is "reproducing"
>> this behavior. I'll try to load it on my macs to see if I can reproduce.
>>
>> I dont think downgrading your special python runtime will make a
>> difference. If it does not, be sure to return to R10, so you dont have any
>> other bugs waiting...
>>
>> There are at least a dozen mac users on this mailing list that I know of,
>> probably more, and I have not heard anyone describe the symptoms you are
>> having, so I expect it to be a localized/specialized issue. So we can try
>> to work through and attempt to reproduce your issue...
>>
>> -Jens
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org>
>> *To:* Jens J. <kd4tjx at yahoo.com>; Discussion of CHIRP <
>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 10:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Max OSX Woes
>>
>>
>>
>> What radios are you editing with chirp?
>>
>>
>> Honestly, I never got that far on OSX.
>> By the time I manage to get a file with 50-75 entries imported (in itself
>> a slow, not-easy task), the software becomes unresponsive (beachball).
>> I generally just go do something else (email, ect) and come back, and
>> it's still spinning, and force-quit it and give up and go do it in my Win7
>> vm.
>>
>> So, right now, it's "core functionality" that isn't working. no radio
>> yet, at all.
>>
>> R10 was installed. Just about to try R6 of the KK7DS package as website
>> document (2012 version) states.
>>
>> -jre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Jens J." <kd4tjx at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I also have not had any of the slowness you describe, and I have run it
>> on various mac machines. A hackintosh which has run lion and mavericks, and
>> a mac book air that has run mountain lion and mavericks.
>>
>> I assume you must have installed the KK7DS python R10 runtime package in
>> order to get it working as a pre-req step.
>>
>> What radios are you editing with chirp?
>> How many channels do you have visible at once (i.e., how many are you
>> viewing in memory range)?
>>
>> -Jens
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Pete Mackie <pete at seaquest.com>
>> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 10:11 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Max OSX Woes
>>
>> Joseph,
>>
>> I don’t know what to say regarding your woes of running CHIRP on Mac OS
>> X. I run CHIP on Mac OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks on three computers without any
>> of the problems you describe below. My MacBook Pro is over 5 years old.
>> CHIRP is rock solid being most responsive on my MacBook Pro.
>>
>> For security purposes, I only run Mac OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks on four
>> family Macs. Why not upgrade from Mountain Lion it is a free O/S upgrade?
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> On May 19, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi there, name's Joe. Call N8CN
>> >
>> > I've got a Macbook Air running Mavericks, a Macbook Pro running
>> Mountain Lion, and a Mac Mini running Mountain Lion.
>> >
>> > On all three units, the last version I tried (a while ago) was v0.3.1.
>> It was terribly slow, and I had issues with tasks like.. resizing the
>> window.
>> >
>> > I basically shelved it, and ended up using RT systems software inside a
>> VirtualBox Windows 7 instance, which proved faster. By like, a lot.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I recently tried Chirp again (to read a chirp file for import to a
>> website that lists area repeaters that I maintain) and was notified that
>> 0.4.0 was available.
>> > I downloaded and installed it. I've tried it an all three platforms
>> mentioned above.
>> >
>> > 1st issue: still very slow once you have a file with any data in it.
>> > 2nd issue: tasks like changing the size of the window are .. glitchy.
>> > 3rd issue: it crashes  (repeatably) when I attempt to open a file. Not
>> the opening-a-file part, the "browsing to where the file is located" part,
>> usually before finding the file to even bother trying to open it.
>> >
>> >
>> > I guess my query is this:
>> > If this is multi-platform software, are there test users / power-users
>> using this under OSX with any success? If so, I'm wondering why my
>> experiences have been so poor, as I know that with what I've already
>> encountered, I wouldn't be able to use this software on OSX with any
>> long-term success..
>> >
>> > Or.. maybe I am missing a step? I've downloaded the zip, extracted the
>> app, placed it where it needs to be, and run the application.
>> > There are no other "notes" on the site about other necessary tweaks --
>> but if there are other OSX users out there that did something different to
>> achieve results that yield a workable platform -- is there something on the
>> wiki that shows what you did and where you did it?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I've opened Chirp under my Virtualbox Windows7 instance, and it appears
>> to be MUCH more stable and reliable. No noticeable "speed increase" over
>> operations on the OSX version, but the glitchiness and crashiness seem to
>> not exist.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Just offering what I've experienced in the last few months.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not out to "flame" the software -- I think it's a great idea, and
>> the effort is extremely remarkable!! -- and I'm not out to just "complain"
>> -- and perhaps it's just lack of effort to dig deeper and/or understanding
>> on my part -- I'm just communicating what I've run into (as an OSX user,
>> and Windows-land escapee) in the past 4 to 6 months attempting to make use
>> of Chirp on OSX
>> >
>> > Windows, no problem. seems to work fine.
>> >
>> >
>> > Honestly, out of lack of time, I haven't played with the linux versions
>> despite having a lot of test platforms I could use. In fact, now that I've
>> written this, I think ima go try it. :) Anyone try it on a RPi yet? (i
>> assume yes…)
>> >
>> >
>> > Best 73 and -- hey I really like the idea of this software :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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