[chirp_users] Max OSX Woes

Mon May 19 13:01:41 PDT 2014

I also run Chirp on a Mac, 5 or so years old, and have not noticed any lag,
or "slowness".

Try rebooting, closing ALL applications that may auto-start, and give it a
try.  I suspect it's a problem with your Mac and not Chirp.

Denis

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On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:

> Other apps are slow on the mavericks system only, which is why the other
> two are still ML systems and not mavericks.
>
> On the other two systems CHIRP is the only app that runs with poor
> performance.
>
> I completely acknowledge that I may not have done something necessary to
> achieve optimum performance,  and would like to discover what that is.
>
> Downgrading R10 to R6 of the python package did seem to increase the
> responsiveness. I will be posting some videos to YouTube later today.
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Jim McCorison <jimmcc at mccorison.com> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> I run Chirp, latest stable and daily builds, on an iMac with Mavericks
> with great reliability and speed. I've not tried it on my MacBook Pro.
> Given that you report that other apps "(Mail.app, Safari, and
> VMWare/VirtualBox)" run poorly it would appear that the issue is with
> either your MBP itself or the OS installation. I would suggest getting the
> underlying problem resolved instead of focusing on Chirp.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> Jim McCorison
> Orcas Island, WA
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:
>
>
> IT's any file, Jens.
>
> If I go to File and then New and then type things in manually, by the time
> I get to the third line, I'm already frustrated by the slow, laggy response
> of the UI.
>
> -jre
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jens J." <kd4tjx at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Can you provide the file that you are importing that is "reproducing" this
> behavior. I'll try to load it on my macs to see if I can reproduce.
>
> I dont think downgrading your special python runtime will make a
> difference. If it does not, be sure to return to R10, so you dont have any
> other bugs waiting...
>
> There are at least a dozen mac users on this mailing list that I know of,
> probably more, and I have not heard anyone describe the symptoms you are
> having, so I expect it to be a localized/specialized issue. So we can try
> to work through and attempt to reproduce your issue...
>
> -Jens
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org>
> *To:* Jens J. <kd4tjx at yahoo.com>; Discussion of CHIRP <
> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 10:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Max OSX Woes
>
>
>
> What radios are you editing with chirp?
>
>
> Honestly, I never got that far on OSX.
> By the time I manage to get a file with 50-75 entries imported (in itself
> a slow, not-easy task), the software becomes unresponsive (beachball).
> I generally just go do something else (email, ect) and come back, and it's
> still spinning, and force-quit it and give up and go do it in my Win7 vm.
>
> So, right now, it's "core functionality" that isn't working. no radio yet,
> at all.
>
> R10 was installed. Just about to try R6 of the KK7DS package as website
> document (2012 version) states.
>
> -jre
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Jens J." <kd4tjx at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I also have not had any of the slowness you describe, and I have run it on
> various mac machines. A hackintosh which has run lion and mavericks, and a
> mac book air that has run mountain lion and mavericks.
>
> I assume you must have installed the KK7DS python R10 runtime package in
> order to get it working as a pre-req step.
>
> What radios are you editing with chirp?
> How many channels do you have visible at once (i.e., how many are you
> viewing in memory range)?
>
> -Jens
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Pete Mackie <pete at seaquest.com>
> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 10:11 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Max OSX Woes
>
> Joseph,
>
> I don’t know what to say regarding your woes of running CHIRP on Mac OS X.
> I run CHIP on Mac OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks on three computers without any of
> the problems you describe below. My MacBook Pro is over 5 years old. CHIRP
> is rock solid being most responsive on my MacBook Pro.
>
> For security purposes, I only run Mac OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks on four family
> Macs. Why not upgrade from Mountain Lion it is a free O/S upgrade?
>
> Pete
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Joseph R. Erlewein <joe at n8cn.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi there, name's Joe. Call N8CN
> >
> > I've got a Macbook Air running Mavericks, a Macbook Pro running Mountain
> Lion, and a Mac Mini running Mountain Lion.
> >
> > On all three units, the last version I tried (a while ago) was v0.3.1.
> It was terribly slow, and I had issues with tasks like.. resizing the
> window.
> >
> > I basically shelved it, and ended up using RT systems software inside a
> VirtualBox Windows 7 instance, which proved faster. By like, a lot.
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently tried Chirp again (to read a chirp file for import to a
> website that lists area repeaters that I maintain) and was notified that
> 0.4.0 was available.
> > I downloaded and installed it. I've tried it an all three platforms
> mentioned above.
> >
> > 1st issue: still very slow once you have a file with any data in it.
> > 2nd issue: tasks like changing the size of the window are .. glitchy.
> > 3rd issue: it crashes  (repeatably) when I attempt to open a file. Not
> the opening-a-file part, the "browsing to where the file is located" part,
> usually before finding the file to even bother trying to open it.
> >
> >
> > I guess my query is this:
> > If this is multi-platform software, are there test users / power-users
> using this under OSX with any success? If so, I'm wondering why my
> experiences have been so poor, as I know that with what I've already
> encountered, I wouldn't be able to use this software on OSX with any
> long-term success..
> >
> > Or.. maybe I am missing a step? I've downloaded the zip, extracted the
> app, placed it where it needs to be, and run the application.
> > There are no other "notes" on the site about other necessary tweaks --
> but if there are other OSX users out there that did something different to
> achieve results that yield a workable platform -- is there something on the
> wiki that shows what you did and where you did it?
> >
> >
> >
> > I've opened Chirp under my Virtualbox Windows7 instance, and it appears
> to be MUCH more stable and reliable. No noticeable "speed increase" over
> operations on the OSX version, but the glitchiness and crashiness seem to
> not exist.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just offering what I've experienced in the last few months.
> >
> >
> > I'm not out to "flame" the software -- I think it's a great idea, and
> the effort is extremely remarkable!! -- and I'm not out to just "complain"
> -- and perhaps it's just lack of effort to dig deeper and/or understanding
> on my part -- I'm just communicating what I've run into (as an OSX user,
> and Windows-land escapee) in the past 4 to 6 months attempting to make use
> of Chirp on OSX
> >
> > Windows, no problem. seems to work fine.
> >
> >
> > Honestly, out of lack of time, I haven't played with the linux versions
> despite having a lot of test platforms I could use. In fact, now that I've
> written this, I think ima go try it. :) Anyone try it on a RPi yet? (i
> assume yes…)
> >
> >
> > Best 73 and -- hey I really like the idea of this software :)
> >
> >
> >
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