[chirp_users] Straightening out mixed terminology

Tue Apr 8 12:55:43 PDT 2014

You are likely to get answers from some about all the differences.  I am going to try to help you on the tone question:
Tone codes are built into your radio, starting at 77 I think to 156.7 , maybe higher on some radios. in steps.
Tone Mode off or on
Tone - frequency of tone for tone that turns the repeater on listening to your radio.
Tone SQL (Squelch)  is a tone that you can enter so your radio only hears transmitters using the same tone on their transmit signals.
DTCS = digital tones instead of analog tones
DTCS TX code digital version of tone sql.
DTCS POL  not sure, might be a way to find what DTCS signal another signal has on it.

In the top example "146.445 this is an odd setup for a regular repeater, it has a 1 meg split (common on 440 but not on 2 metere)  The top (77.6) is the tone to use on your transmitter to key up that repeater, the 156.7 is the tone to put on your receiver so that the transmitter will key up your receiver.  If you do not put any tone in for your receiver, all signals will key it up so unless there is an interference problem omit that part.

Hope this sheds some light.  73 Paul

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:58 PM, Pete Miller <scmiller40 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you
think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason 
for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the 
same questions.

The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP,
and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers
in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones
to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions
about other sources.

In advance, thanks.

/kc1bkh -- Pete

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Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for
BaoFeng UV-5RE  Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus

The overall question: 
How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and the BaoFeng columns?

( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf . )

Repeater directory columns
FREQ OFS ST CITY CALL MODE CODE
IN       OUT STATUS COUNTY IRLP ECHO LINKS/COMMENTS Las 

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	* Freq-- transmit frequency of repeater? yes, according to KC5OLO 

	* OFS-- For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz
What gets entered where in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? 
Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?
	* Mode
Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ?
What is "Tone Mode"?
	* Code In and Code Out--
Here are four examples from the repeater directory
146.445 +1M CT Bridgeport WA1RJI  77.0/
156.7 77.0*  Fairfield     224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT) 2012/09/09 
146.475 +1M CT Norwalk W1NLK  100.0 100.0  Fairfield      2012/09/12 
146.625 -  CT Fairfield WB1CQO  100.0   Fairfield        
146.655 -  CT Stamford W1EE  100.0   Fairfield   158564
WB1GRB-R  2013/01/28 
+1M is special offset?
146.445 : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?
146.445 : What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean? 
>>* means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.
What are the units of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?
	* IRLP - The Internet Radio Linking Project
I'm not there yet
	* Echo - Refers to EchoLink® ?
I'm not there yet
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BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

- cloned report downloaded from radio

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>How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?
csv                  cloned
Frequency.......Frequency
Name...............Name
Tone Mode.......?
Tone................?Tone
ToneSql...........?
DTCS Code......Dtcs Code
DTCS Rx Code ?
DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity
CrossMode.......?
Duplex..............Duplex
Offset...............Offset
Mode................?Mode
Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far
Skip.................Skip            
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BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns 
- csv format

Location  |Name |Frequency |Duplex |Offset |Tone| rToneFreq |cToneFreq| DtcsCode| DtcsPolarity |Mode| TStep |Skip |Comment URCALL RPT1CALL RPT2CALL   
What are 
rToneFreq
cToneFreq 
TStep
Skip
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>Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same?
>I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio,
>so the order of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?
>
>
>May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I 
>can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such 
>as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how 
>to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image.
>Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?
>
>
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Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info,
just ask.
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