<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>You are likely to get answers from some about all the differences. I am going to try to help you on the tone question:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Tone codes are built into your radio, starting at 77 I think to 156.7 , maybe higher on some radios. in steps.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Tone Mode off or on</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Tone - frequency of tone for tone that turns the repeater on listening to your
radio.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Tone SQL (Squelch) is a tone that you can enter so your radio only hears transmitters using the same tone on their transmit signals.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">DTCS = digital tones instead of analog tones</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">DTCS TX code digital version of tone sql.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">DTCS POL not sure, might be a way to find what DTCS signal another signal has on it.</div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">In the top example "146.445 this is an odd setup for a regular repeater, it has a 1 meg split (common on 440 but not on 2 metere) The top (77.6) is the tone to use on your transmitter to key up that repeater, the 156.7 is the tone to put on your receiver so that the transmitter will key up your receiver. If you do not put any tone in for your receiver, all signals will key it up so unless there is an interference problem omit that part.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;
font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Hope this sheds some light. 73 Paul</span><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:58 PM, Pete Miller <scmiller40@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0472317534"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Hi,</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you</div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason </div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the </div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">same questions.</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br>The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP,</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">about other sources.</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
In advance, thanks.</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">/kc1bkh -- Pete</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
=-=-=</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for</div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff" style="background-color:rgb(243,243,243);"><b>The overall question:</b></font> <br>
<font color="#0000ff">How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and </font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);">the BaoFeng columns?</span></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">
( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf">http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf</a> . )</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">Repeater directory columns</font></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><table width="955" border="0" align="center" cellspacing="0" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<tbody><tr class="yiv0472317534" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,153);"><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);" href=""><img border="0" src="http://nerepeaters.com/images/arrow.gif"></a>FREQ</span></td>
<td width="25"><span style="font-weight:bold;">OFS</span></td><td width="30"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);" href=""><img border="0" src="http://nerepeaters.com/images/arrow.gif"></a>ST</span></td><td width="115">
<span style="font-weight:bold;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);" href=""><img border="0" src="http://nerepeaters.com/images/arrow.gif"></a>CITY</span></td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold;">CALL</span></td><td width="50">
<span style="font-weight:bold;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);" href=""><img border="0" src="http://nerepeaters.com/images/arrow.gif"></a>MODE</span></td><td width="75" colspan="2" style="text-align:center;font-weight:bold;white-space:nowrap;">
CODE<br>IN OUT</td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold;">STATUS</span></td><td width="80"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);" href=""><img border="0" src="http://nerepeaters.com/images/arrow.gif"></a>COUNTY</span></td>
<td width="35"><span style="font-weight:bold;">IRLP</span></td><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold;">ECHO</span></td><td width="186"><span style="font-weight:bold;">LINKS/COMMENTS</span></td><td colspan="2" width="130" align="right">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Las</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=</div></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><ul><li><font color="#0000ff">Freq</font><font size="4" style="font-size:small;"> </font><font>-- transmit frequency of repeater? </font>yes, according to KC5OLO <br>
</li><li><font color="#0000ff">OFS</font><font size="4" style="font-size:small;"> -- </font><font>For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz</font><br><i style="font-size:small;">What</i> gets entered <i style="font-size:small;">where</i> in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? <br>
Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?</li><li><font color="#0000ff">Mode</font><br>Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ?<br>
What is "Tone Mode"?</li><li><font color="#0000ff"><font>Code In and Code Out</font><font size="4" style="font-size:small;">--</font></font><br>Here are four examples from the repeater directory</li></ul><table width="955" border="0" align="center" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<tbody><tr class="yiv0472317534" style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221);"><td>146.445</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Bridgeport</td><td><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;" href="">WA1RJI</a></td>
<td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">77.0/<br>156.7</font></td><td nowrap=""><font color="RED" size="1">77.0*</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td> </td><td colspan="2">224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT)</td>
<td align="right"><span class="yiv0472317534" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2012/09/09</font></span></td></tr><tr class="yiv0472317534"><td>146.475</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Norwalk</td>
<td><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;" href="">W1NLK</a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td>
</td><td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span class="yiv0472317534" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2012/09/12</font></span></td></tr><tr class="yiv0472317534" style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221);"><td>146.625</td>
<td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Fairfield</td><td>WB1CQO</td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td>
<td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"> </td></tr><tr class="yiv0472317534"><td>146.655</td><td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Stamford</td><td><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;" href="">W1EE</a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td>
<td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td>158564<br><font size="1">WB1GRB-R</font></td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span class="yiv0472317534" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2013/01/28</font></span></td>
</tr></tbody></table></div><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
<font color="#0000ff">+1M</font> is special offset?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">146.445</font> : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">146.445 </font>: What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean? <br><font color="#0000ff">* </font>means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.</div>
</blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
<font color="#0000ff">What are the units</font> of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><ul><li><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight: lighter;"><font><font color="#0000ff">IRLP</font> -</font></span><span style="font-size: xx-large; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight: lighter;"> </span><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;">The Internet Radio Linking Project<br>
I'm not there yet</span></li></ul><ul><li><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#0000ff">Echo</font> - Refers to </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">EchoLink</span><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><sup>® ?</sup></font><br style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;">I'm not there yet</span></li></ul></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=<br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns</font><br>
</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">- cloned</font> report downloaded from radio</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><img src="cid:1.2720669622@web142803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com" alt="Inline image 1"><br>
</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">csv cloned</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Frequency.......Frequency</div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Name...............Name</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Tone Mode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
Tone................?Tone</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">ToneSql...........?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">DTCS Code......Dtcs Code</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">DTCS Rx Code ?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">CrossMode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Duplex..............Duplex</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Offset...............Offset</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Mode................?Mode</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Skip.................Skip <font size="4"> </font></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
=-=</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns </font></div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">- csv format</font><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="1255" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:943pt;">
<tbody><tr height="34" style="height:25.5pt;"><td height="34" class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="height:25.5pt;width:48pt;">Location</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;"> |Name</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="67" style="border-left-style:none;width:50pt;">
|Frequency</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">|Duplex</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="46" style="border-left-style:none;width:35pt;">|Offset</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">
|Tone|</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="77" style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt;">rToneFreq</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="77" style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt;">|cToneFreq|</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">
DtcsCode|</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="78" style="border-left-style:none;width:59pt;">DtcsPolarity</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">|Mode|</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">
TStep</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">|Skip</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">|Comment</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;">
URCALL</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="70" style="border-left-style:none;width:53pt;">RPT1CALL</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="72" style="border-left-style:none;width:54pt;">RPT2CALL</td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="width:48pt;"></td><td class="yiv0472317534" width="64" style="width:48pt;">
</td></tr></tbody></table></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">What are </div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
rToneFreq</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">cToneFreq </div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">
TStep</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Skip</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same?</div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio,</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">so the <i>order</i> of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?</div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I </div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such </div>
<div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how </div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default">to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image.<br>
Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
<br></div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info,</div><div class="yiv0472317534gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">just ask.</div></div>
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