[drats_users] drats_users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 10
Kirk Talbott
Fri Feb 10 14:08:08 PST 2012
My two cents.
While you can configure your home E-mail account's POP and
SMTP E-mail servers (incoming and outgoing if you wish)
in D-RATS thereby making D-RATS your primary home E-mail client
software, and you can provide access to these mail servers
by other D-RATS stations in case of emergency communication
priorities, you certainly don't NEED or will even WANT to do this
in normal operating circumstances. It's easy enough to address
a D-RATS E-mail directly to an online callsign and use that method
which works well either via Internet or RF and it comes already
configured as part of normal D-RATS E-mail operation.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: more on d-rats email (Rolan O. Clark)
2. Re: more on d-rats email (Arnold Harding)
3. Re: more on d-rats email (Rolan O. Clark)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:37:53 -0500
From: "Rolan O. Clark" <rolan.clark at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <F4B1392314B141C394C94682EDE30B28 at RolanPC>
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Dan,
Your are correct.
file>preferences>outgoing email , when smtp.comcast.net is removed
then it doesn't send.
I tried this again, with smtp.comcast.net back in and saved, It won't send
with file>preferences>Email Access set to outgoing, it has to be set to
incoming. Do you understand why that is happening?
To me, if the code compiles and runs without error, obviously it does, then
one has to assume it is doing what the program tells it to do.
Maybe the frame of reference of incoming and outgoing is what I am not
understanding. Not a problem, I can set to both but curious.
Thanks much for your time,
I know there are several of these instances/scenarios I don't understand
because I don?t understand the flow path of emails and how the code is
written.
Take care,
Rolan
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:31 AM
To: Discussion of D-RATS
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
> and off it went into never never land or where ever but Phil got it.
>From your screenshots, it looks like you have an SMTP server properly
configured, albeit disabled. I'd have to go look at the code, but I
believe the "enabled" flag only controls whether messages received from
other stations can be gatewayed through to that server or not. Since
you're local and addressed the mail directly, I think it would still
attempt to send it. If you remove the server name from that box and then
try again, it shouldn't work, if you're doing what you say you're doing.
--
Dan Smith
www.danplanet.com
KK7DS
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:46:42 -0800
From: "Arnold Harding" <kq6di at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <7F80008E76CD4D6F8A5743207EE5D551 at AHhome>
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I haven't followed the entire thread, but I do know that Comcast will
only allow mail to be sent from pop accounts when connected to/through
Comcast. There are some ways around it with the pop settings, but I
don't remember them at the moment. This is to prevent spammers...
Comcast usually wants you to send using the email client in comcast .
net when elsewhere.
Could this be part of the problem?
Arnold
KQ6DI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolan O. Clark" <rolan.clark at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
> Dan,
>
> Your are correct.
>
> file>preferences>outgoing email , when smtp.comcast.net is
> removed
> then it doesn't send.
>
> I tried this again, with smtp.comcast.net back in and saved, It
> won't send
> with file>preferences>Email Access set to outgoing, it has to be
> set to
> incoming. Do you understand why that is happening?
>
> To me, if the code compiles and runs without error, obviously it
> does, then
> one has to assume it is doing what the program tells it to do.
>
> Maybe the frame of reference of incoming and outgoing is what I
> am not
> understanding. Not a problem, I can set to both but curious.
>
> Thanks much for your time,
>
> I know there are several of these instances/scenarios I don't
> understand
> because I don?t understand the flow path of emails and how the code
> is
> written.
>
> Take care,
>
> Rolan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Smith
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:31 AM
> To: Discussion of D-RATS
> Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
>
>> and off it went into never never land or where ever but Phil got
>> it.
>
> From your screenshots, it looks like you have an SMTP server
> properly
> configured, albeit disabled. I'd have to go look at the code, but I
> believe the "enabled" flag only controls whether messages received
> from
> other stations can be gatewayed through to that server or not. Since
> you're local and addressed the mail directly, I think it would still
> attempt to send it. If you remove the server name from that box and
> then
> try again, it shouldn't work, if you're doing what you say you're
> doing.
>
> --
> Dan Smith
> www.danplanet.com
> KK7DS
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:27:08 -0500
From: "Rolan O. Clark" <rolan.clark at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <9E441F68D9F2465596D5839E261EE281 at RolanPC>
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reply-type=original
Arnold,
Thanks much but I have no idea. All the things I am writing about fall more
in the category of not understanding what works how.
Since I have never written code to handle email I know nothing of how the
program flows or handles data or requests. I'm just trying to learn and
these are a couple
of things I don't understand.
Take care,
Rolan
-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Harding
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:46 PM
To: Discussion of D-RATS
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
I haven't followed the entire thread, but I do know that Comcast will
only allow mail to be sent from pop accounts when connected to/through
Comcast. There are some ways around it with the pop settings, but I
don't remember them at the moment. This is to prevent spammers...
Comcast usually wants you to send using the email client in comcast .
net when elsewhere.
Could this be part of the problem?
Arnold
KQ6DI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolan O. Clark" <rolan.clark at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
> Dan,
>
> Your are correct.
>
> file>preferences>outgoing email , when smtp.comcast.net is
> removed
> then it doesn't send.
>
> I tried this again, with smtp.comcast.net back in and saved, It
> won't send
> with file>preferences>Email Access set to outgoing, it has to be
> set to
> incoming. Do you understand why that is happening?
>
> To me, if the code compiles and runs without error, obviously it
> does, then
> one has to assume it is doing what the program tells it to do.
>
> Maybe the frame of reference of incoming and outgoing is what I
> am not
> understanding. Not a problem, I can set to both but curious.
>
> Thanks much for your time,
>
> I know there are several of these instances/scenarios I don't
> understand
> because I don?t understand the flow path of emails and how the code
> is
> written.
>
> Take care,
>
> Rolan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Smith
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:31 AM
> To: Discussion of D-RATS
> Subject: Re: [drats_users] more on d-rats email
>
>> and off it went into never never land or where ever but Phil got
>> it.
>
> From your screenshots, it looks like you have an SMTP server
> properly
> configured, albeit disabled. I'd have to go look at the code, but I
> believe the "enabled" flag only controls whether messages received
> from
> other stations can be gatewayed through to that server or not. Since
> you're local and addressed the mail directly, I think it would still
> attempt to send it. If you remove the server name from that box and
> then
> try again, it shouldn't work, if you're doing what you say you're
> doing.
>
> --
> Dan Smith
> www.danplanet.com
> KK7DS
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