[chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

[Ken Hansen]

Chuck,

It seems you really want to convince me that monitors aren't expensive - I'm not sure why, since everything I've written is "+ monitor".

Yes, people can use their home TVs.

Yes, older computer displays are abundant and in many cases freely available.

Your first post said:

"And for the price of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you are off to the races..."

You left out PS, mouse, hdmi cable & microSD card, and adding those to a $70 RPi 400 takes you close to the $100 mark I mentioned.

Ken, N2VIP

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 19:15, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ken, in this case I do not have a junk box, but there is
> an IT recycler (actually several) in town and they all
> have monitors and are more than glad to part with them
> for a few $$. I think if people will look around they will
> find that most cities of any size will have them and a
> lot of computer shops end up with a collection of mon-
> itors for the which they will gladly part for a few $$. 
> 
> Even in more rural areas, I am going to bet that more
> than one shop has monitors that they would like to be
> rid of, they work but perhaps are not the best for the
> usual video but for a Chirp/ RPi setup they would
> work great. 
> 
> I see the IT recyclers here send them to grind up, so
> many monitors and so little space.  If they get a few
> $$ for them that is more than they get when they are
> sent to the grinder. 
> 
> When I talk about scrounging, it is not necessarily in
> my junk box, if people will look a wee bit they will find
> that there are a lot of ways to keep costs down. Most
> TV's have HDMI inputs now and for Chirp they work
> pretty well, even small ones. 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 2:45 PM Ken Hansen <ken at n2vip.org> wrote:
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> My $100 number started with an RPi 400, not a 'traditional' RPI.
>> 
>> RPi 400 - $70
>> Mouse - $7
>> Power adapter - $7
>> HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)
>> Name-brand MicroSD card - $7
>> 
>> That gives you $98 plus monitor, or simply get the RPi 400 'complete kit' for $100 and get a nice book also.
>> 
>> Substitute a 2 Gig RPi 4 (assuming you can find one):
>> 
>> RPi - $45
>> Case for RPi 4 - $5
>> Keyboard - $20 (I too like Logitech K400)
>> Power adapter - $7
>> HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)
>> Name-brand MicroSD card - $7
>> 
>> That gets you to $91 plus monitor.
>> 
>> Either path takes you close to $100, esp once you add in tax, s/h, etc.
>> 
>> It's nice that you have a junk box that has all the needed items so you can 'scrounge' them, but it's disingenuous to assume everyone else has a similar junk box.
>> 
>> Ken, N2VIP
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 06:14, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I buy a Logitech K400 which has a touchpad on it for about $20
>>> at Walmart or other places that sell them. I either use a repurposed
>>> TV or go to the local IT recycler and get me a monitor for $5-$10.
>>> You do not need that much SD card for Chirp so that will cost less
>>> than $10. So far I still am not near $100. Part of being a ham is
>>> learning to scrounge. Part of running a RPi is also learning to
>>> scrounge.  For travel I carry a RPi the keyboard and an HDMI cable
>>> and use the HDMI port on the TV in the hotel. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:46 AM Ken Hansen <ken at n2vip.org> wrote:
>>>> You need to add a screen, a mouse, a power supply, and an SD card.
>>>> 
>>>> The screen can get pricey pretty fast - money saved by buying a smaller screen will soon be spent on a pair of 'readers' to use the smaller screen.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm a big fan of RPi, but people like to gloss over the actual cost of such a setup.
>>>> 
>>>> An RPi 400 (Pi in a keyboard) setup can easily run $100 + monitor, cheaper than a new laptop, but pretty close to low-end, off-lease corporate laptops.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken, N2VIP
>>>> 
>>>> > On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:00, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > And for the price
>>>> > of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you
>>>> > are off to the races...
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