[chirp_users] Ubuntu 20.04: no installation candidate

[James Keener]

Ah, thanks! I didn't think to hunt for the dev list.

I honestly don't mean to come as "ungrateful" or just "snotty". I realize
some key dependencies weren't available in python3 and it seems to be the
solution was to rewrite the UI, which isn't a trivial task. I can also only
imagine how much byte-string conversion code is in chirp, which is one of
the major pain points in the python 2 to 3 transition.

A sincere thank you to everyone involved in building and maintaining Chirp.
Especially given that it's supporting undocumented protocols, it works like
a champ!

Jim

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tony Fuller <goldstar611 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Jim,
>
> Dan was kind enough to also publish .flatpak file with each new release
> until we get over the hump of python2 and gtk2. You'll find the .flatpak
> file next to the Windows installer, Mac runtime and the source tarball.
>
> As far as helping with the py3 branch, it would be best to join the
> chirp_devel email list and voice your availability there :) I know there
> are some drivers which will not load but can't help out much personally
> since I don't have many radio models to test with. Testing is probably by
> far the largest hurdle to get a stable version out as well as raw developer
> time.
>
> Tony
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> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Ubuntu 20.04: no installation candidate
>
> The further out of sync things become with what is "supported", the
> greater the chance of security issues arising and the greater the chance
> that things will become harder and harder to get working.
>
> At what point will we go from "install it from the python website" to "you
> need to grab the old source repo and compile it, but you also need old
> versions of glibc, &c which you also need to compile"? The harder something
> is to install, the less likely it'll be to be used.
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net>
> wrote:
>
> Who cares? Why do you need updates for something that isn't broken.
>
> On 27 July 2020 at 15:02 James Keener <jim at jimkeener.com> wrote:
>
> Python 2.7 is now past EOL and will receive no further updates.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:59 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
> nigel at ngunn.net> wrote:
>
> Nothing has fallen into disaray.
> If YOU install Py2, available from the python.org website, and the 4
> dependencies it needs, all will work.
>
> The proceedure for that has been published in detail both here and on the
> Chirp Facebook group several times.
>
> On 27 July 2020 at 14:35 James Keener < jim at jimkeener.com> wrote:
>
> I've been trying to get the py3 branch to work, but it seems to not be
> stable, as there are still many syntax errors. Once I got chirpwx running I
> tried to clone my UV5R and got "ERROR: Failed to clone: Failed to
> communicate with radio: can't concat str to bytes", but there's no stack
> trace or anything to tell me where the error is occurring and "Failed to
> communicate with radio" occurs in many modules.
>
> It's sad to such a good piece of software fall into such disarray. It's
> not in the default debian, ubuntu, or fedora repos anymore, nor do the
> installation instructions on the website work.
>
> Are patches welcome for the py3 branch? I can try to dig into why the
> cloning is crashing. I see https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/495 but I
> don't know if I'll be duplicating work of if I can help in any other way.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:06 PM Angus Ainslie < angus at akkea.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> I've been using the py3 branch on 20.04
>
> Angus
>
> On 2020-06-14 17:58, Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> > I've got V2, V2.7, V3 and V3.7 installed and not aware of any
> > switching mechanism.
> >
> >> On 14 June 2020 at 19:00 Pat Anderson < anderson5420 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't believe Ubuntu 20.04 automatically chooses the correct
> >> pythom version, otherwise this tutorial [1] using the
> >> update-alternatives command would be superfluous.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
> >> nigel at ngunn.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14 June 2020 at 15:57 Pat Anderson < anderson5420 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> The PPA you need to add to get CHIRP is NOT an Ubuntu repository,
> >> it is Dan Smith's repository:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dansmith/chirp-snapshots
> >> sudo apt-get update
> >> sudo apt-get install chirp-daily
> >>
> >> And point it to xenial in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
> >>
> >> The problem you will  run into is that CHIRP requires Python 2.7,
> >> and Ubuntuy 20.04 only comes with Python 3 by default.
> >>
> >> You can download and install Python 2.7 in Ubuntu  20.04, but then
> >> you need to figure out how to switch between Python versions.
> >>
> >> Not an issue. Ubuntu will sort it automatically.
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I'm trying to install Chirp on ubuntu 20.04. I've added the PPA and
> >> updated my repos, but chirp is still unavailable.
> >>
> >> I tried changing the repo from "focal main" to "bionic main" just to
> >>
> >> see if it works, but that results in unresolvable dependencies.
> >>
> >> It looks like no .deb file is available for AMD64.
> >>
> >
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chirp-daily/
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
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