<div dir="ltr"><div>Ah, thanks! I didn't think to hunt for the dev list.</div><div><br></div><div>I honestly don't mean to come as "ungrateful" or just "snotty". I realize some key dependencies weren't available in python3 and it seems to be the solution was to rewrite the UI, which isn't a trivial task. I can also only imagine how much byte-string conversion code is in chirp, which is one of the major pain points in the python 2 to 3 transition.<br></div><div><br></div><div>A sincere thank you to everyone involved in building and maintaining Chirp. Especially given that it's supporting undocumented protocols, it works like a champ!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Jim<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tony Fuller <<a href="mailto:goldstar611@hotmail.com">goldstar611@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Hey Jim,<br>
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Dan was kind enough to also publish .flatpak file with each new release until we get over the hump of python2 and gtk2. You'll find the .flatpak file next to the Windows installer, Mac runtime and the source tarball. </div>
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As far as helping with the py3 branch, it would be best to join the chirp_devel email list and voice your availability there :) I know there are some drivers which will not load but can't help out much personally since I don't have many radio models to test
with. Testing is probably by far the largest hurdle to get a stable version out as well as raw developer time.</div>
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Tony</div>
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<div id="gmail-m_2852680928598894614divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> <<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> on behalf of James Keener <<a href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com" target="_blank">jim@jimkeener.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2020 2:34:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Ubuntu 20.04: no installation candidate</font>
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<div>The further out of sync things become with what is "supported", the greater the chance of security issues arising and the greater the chance that things will become harder and harder to get working.</div>
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<div>At what point will we go from "install it from the python website" to "you need to grab the old source repo and compile it, but you also need old versions of glibc, &c which you also need to compile"? The harder something is to install, the less likely
it'll be to be used.</div>
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<div>Jim<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Who cares? Why do you need updates for something that isn't broken. </div>
<blockquote type="cite">On 27 July 2020 at 15:02 James Keener <<a href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com" target="_blank">jim@jimkeener.com</a>> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Python 2.7 is now past EOL and will receive no further updates. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:59 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF < <a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target="_blank">
nigel@ngunn.net</a>> wrote: <br>
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<div>Nothing has fallen into disaray. </div>
<div>If YOU install Py2, available from the <a href="http://python.org" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
python.org</a> website, and the 4 dependencies it needs, all will work. </div>
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<div>The proceedure for that has been published in detail both here and on the Chirp Facebook group several times.
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<blockquote type="cite">On 27 July 2020 at 14:35 James Keener < <a href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
jim@jimkeener.com</a>> wrote: <br>
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<div>I've been trying to get the py3 branch to work, but it seems to not be stable, as there are still many syntax errors. Once I got chirpwx running I tried to clone my UV5R and got "ERROR: Failed to clone: Failed to communicate with radio: can't concat str
to bytes", but there's no stack trace or anything to tell me where the error is occurring and "Failed to communicate with radio" occurs in many modules.
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<div>It's sad to such a good piece of software fall into such disarray. It's not in the default debian, ubuntu, or fedora repos anymore, nor do the installation instructions on the website work.
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<div>Are patches welcome for the py3 branch? I can try to dig into why the cloning is crashing. I see
<a href="https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/495" rel="noopener" target="_blank">https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/495</a> but I don't know if I'll be duplicating work of if I can help in any other way.
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<div>Jim <br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:06 PM Angus Ainslie < <a href="mailto:angus@akkea.ca" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
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<blockquote>Hi Pat, <br>
<br>
I've been using the py3 branch on 20.04 <br>
<br>
Angus <br>
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On 2020-06-14 17:58, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote: <br>
> I've got V2, V2.7, V3 and V3.7 installed and not aware of any <br>
> switching mechanism. <br>
> <br>
>> On 14 June 2020 at 19:00 Pat Anderson < <a href="mailto:anderson5420@gmail.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
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>> wrote: <br>
>> <br>
>> I don't believe Ubuntu 20.04 automatically chooses the correct <br>
>> pythom version, otherwise this tutorial [1] using the <br>
>> update-alternatives command would be superfluous. <br>
>> <br>
>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:32 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF < <br>
>> <a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" rel="noopener" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>> wrote:
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>> <br>
>> On 14 June 2020 at 15:57 Pat Anderson < <a href="mailto:anderson5420@gmail.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
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>> wrote: <br>
>> <br>
>> The PPA you need to add to get CHIRP is NOT an Ubuntu repository, <br>
>> it is Dan Smith's repository: <br>
>> <br>
>> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dansmith/chirp-snapshots <br>
>> sudo apt-get update <br>
>> sudo apt-get install chirp-daily <br>
>> <br>
>> And point it to xenial in your /etc/apt/sources.list file <br>
>> <br>
>> The problem you will run into is that CHIRP requires Python 2.7, <br>
>> and Ubuntuy 20.04 only comes with Python 3 by default. <br>
>> <br>
>> You can download and install Python 2.7 in Ubuntu 20.04, but then <br>
>> you need to figure out how to switch between Python versions. <br>
>> <br>
>> Not an issue. Ubuntu will sort it automatically. <br>
>> <br>
>> Hi <br>
>> <br>
>> I'm trying to install Chirp on ubuntu 20.04. I've added the PPA and <br>
>> updated my repos, but chirp is still unavailable. <br>
>> <br>
>> I tried changing the repo from "focal main" to "bionic main" just to <br>
>> <br>
>> see if it works, but that results in unresolvable dependencies. <br>
>> <br>
>> It looks like no .deb file is available for AMD64. <br>
>> <br>
> <a href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chirp-daily/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">
http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chirp-daily/</a>
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>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Any help would be appreciated. <br>
>> Thanks. <br>
>> <br>
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