[chirp_users] Rs: setting up a uv-5ra via Chirp

Tue Oct 15 09:56:19 PDT 2019

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On 10/15/2019 6:20 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Steve <kc7byp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi chirp_users. I am having trouble understanding Chirp. I have no problem programming my  Baofeng UV-5RA HT direct from the ht's onboard keyboard.
> That is a good skill to have. I was afraid that it would be hard to do
> so it took me a while to finally decide to do it. I was surprised to
> find out, contrary to popular belief, that it is not a had thing to
> do.
>
>> I don't understand some of the columns on the Chirp display after uploading the ht's memory.
> There are some CHIRP guides here that should help you out.
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
>
>> The memory in the ht should be clean after the factory reset.
> Not so. First, menu 40 (RESET) is not a "factory" reset, . it is a
> "firmware" reset. Its use resets the radio to the default settings
> stored in the firmware which are different from how the radio was
> configured and received from the factory. For example, one of many
> menu settings that is obviously different after a RESET is menu 14
> (VOICE). From the factory it is set to ENG (English). After a RESET it
> is set to CHI (Chinese). If you want English after a RESET, you will
> have to manually change it back.
>
> The memories of these UV-5R style radios are not permitted to be
> "clean". The fewest number of programmed channels you can have is (1)
> one. You will never have more than 127 empty memories. Once the final
> programmed memory is erased, the radio reboots and programs channel 0
> and channel 127 with the firmware default frequencies and settings. So
> when a menu 14 (RESET) is performed, the 128 memories are cleared as
> expected but then, the radio not allowing this will reboot and
> reprogram channels 0 and 127 back to their firmware defaults.
>
> Try it. Reset the radio with menu 40. Then program a 3rd memory. Now
> erase memory 0 and memory 127 (in any order). And finally erase the
> memory that was manually programmed. Once you erase the last memory,
> the radio will reboot and memories 0 and 127 will be programmed again.
>
> The only way to "factory" reset these radios is to have captured a
> CHIRP image from the radio immediately after attaching the battery and
> turning the radio on for the first time and then saving that tab,
> unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file. Loading this saved
> image back to your radio is its "factory" reset.
>
>> In the attached picture memory channels 1 to 10 are the way all of the memory channels are after the memory up load to Chirp after the ht factory reset.
> Except for memories 0 and 127. Since the "reset" erased all 128 of the
> radios memories, the radio reboots and programs channels 0 and 127
> with the firmware default frequencies and settings.
>
>> Now to the collumns,  I know the column (tone) is for the tx ctcs and I assume that the (tonesql) is the rx ctcs.
> Not always. What a column does and when it is used depends on the Tone
> Mode and Cross Mode settings.
>
> For example if Tone Mode is set to Tone, then the value in the Tone
> column _is_ used to set the TX CTCSS tone of the radio. The value in
> the ToneSql column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
>
> If Tone Mode is set to TSQL, then the value in the ToneSql column is
> used to set both the TX CTCSS tone and the RX CTCSS tone. The value in
> the Tone column is unused and ignored by CHIRP.
>
> If Tone Mode is set to (None) or DTCS, the Tone and ToneSql fields are
> not used and the values in them are unused and ignored by CHIRP.
>
> If Tone Mode is set to Cross, whether the Tone and ToneSql fields are
> used would depend on the value selected for Cross Mode.
>
>> Why do the ctcs columns have 88.5hz in both columns.
> Because many of the fields of the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory
> editor will be populated with default values when they are not being
> used. The default values for the Tone and ToneSql fields happens to be
> 88.5.
>
>> Those columns should be empty or 00.0 like in ch 11 in the attached picture.
> It doesn't matter if there are values in them. Theese memories are not
> programmed so the fields in those memory rows are not currently being
> used.
>
> Normally the "Hide Unused Fields" setting under "View" in the menu bar
> would be enabled (it is the default for new CHIRP installations). With
> this setting enabled, fields that are unused based on how other fields
> are configured, would be blanked out. It would appear that you have
> inadvertently disabled this setting.
>
> Regardless, if tone mode is set to (None) or TSQL, the value in the
> Tone field is ignored no matter if it is hidden or not.
>
>> And what are the columns DTCS code,DTCS rx code DTCS pol.
> The are the fields that are used to configure Digital Tone Coded
> Squelch when the Tone Mode (and sometimes Cross Mode) settings are
> configured to use them. These would be the T-DCS and R-DCS settings
> for your radio.
>
> Once again, look at the column guides.
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php#guides
>
>> Why is there numbers and letters in the DTCS columns?
> They are the default values (023, 023 and NN respectively). They are
> currently unused and are being ignored by CHIRP. They are only being
> displayed because the "Hide Unused Fileds" setting has been disabled.
>
>> Cross Mode I know,
> Based on the above, I respectfully don't think you do.
>
>> Duplex I know, offset I know, mode and power I know.
> Probably not fully. If you set Duplex to "split", then the Offset
> field is set to the exact TX frequency. It makes it much easier to
> program a cross-band memory.
>
>> Somewhere in Chirp is the setup to program the displays MDF (A) and MDF (B).  I have seen a lot of chats saying it is there but no direct info to find it. I could use some help please.
> Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (A): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
> Settings -> Basic Settings -> Display Mode (B): (Channel | Name | Frequency)
>
>>
>> The listing of the attachments is as following:
>>    (1) ht at factory reset.jpg (139.7 K)
>>
>> Steve,  kc7byp at gmail.com
>>  From the desk of the radio station KC7BYP
>> 10/14/2019
> You might also be interested in the detailed menu reference for your radio.
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
>
> Good luck.
> Jim KC9HI
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