[chirp_users] Error Trying To Download From FT-1D

Aubrey Turner
Thu Feb 12 08:40:55 PST 2015


Alan,

Something that might be easier to work with than dmesg is lsusb.

If you run the 'lsusb' command you will see what devices Linux thinks 
are attached to the USB.  What I do if I'm in doubt is to run lsusb 
before plugging in the cable, then run it again after plugging in the 
cable to see what, if anything, shows up that is different.

On my system, running lsusb before plugging in the cable shows the 
following:

    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:3404 IMC Networks
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp.
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
    Bus 003 Device 003: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion
    Uninterruptible Power Supply
    Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


Running it *after* plugging in the cable shows this:

    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:3404 IMC Networks
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp.
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
    *Bus 003 Device 006: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303
    Serial Port*
    Bus 003 Device 003: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion
    Uninterruptible Power Supply
    Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Note the difference.

Another approach is to use the 'tail' command to watch the system logs 
as you plug in the cable.

For example, if you run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" (this is in Ubuntu 
14.04) and then plug in the cable, you should see something like the 
following:

    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.274063] usbcore: registered
    new interface driver usbserial
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.274073] usbcore: registered
    new interface driver usbserial_generic
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.274080] usbserial: USB
    Serial support registered for generic
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.275486] usbcore: registered
    new interface driver pl2303
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.275495] usbserial: USB
    Serial support registered for pl2303
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.275511] pl2303 3-9:1.0:
    pl2303 converter detected
    Feb 12 10:24:35 runabout kernel: [696555.276716] usb 3-9: pl2303
    converter now attached to ttyUSB0

The above is pretty much what dmesg will give you, although you are 
seeing it in "real time" as it were.

(Note that "-f" means that tail will continuously follow the file, so 
you have to press Ctrl-C to stop)

Of course, you mileage may vary, as it will depend on what chipset the 
Yaesu cable is using.  I suspect they aren't using the PL2303 that I'm 
using (the above is for a typical Chinese UV-5R programming cable as I 
don't have a FT-1D or either of its programming cables).

Good luck,
Aubrey - K5ACT



On 02/12/2015 10:02 AM, n4lbl wrote:
> Paul:
>
> You might be correct here, but I suspect the reasons may be different 
> from most radios.  FT-1Ds come with either a Yaesu SCU-18 or SCU-19 
> cable depending on their vintage.  Yaesu provides Windows drivers.  I 
> just went back and looked and there are no Mac instructions.  The 
> drivers for the '18 and the '19 are packaged separately and I suppose 
> that they may be different.  I suspect that I just didn't get lucky 
> and find that the standard out-of-the-box Linux driver worked.
>
> I'd like to know if the author of the Chirp code for the FT-1D tested 
> with Linux.  On 04 Feb. I sent a note to this list asking if the 
> SCU-18s or SCU-19s presented any issues under Linux.  I wonder if I'm 
> the first to try it.
>
> I'm game to try to wrestle this to the ground if I have a modest 
> expectation of success.  Knowing that I'm not the first would be 
> sufficient.  If all I wanted to do was back the radio up I could try 
> 1) Chirp with Windows, 2) Yaesu's ADM-6 software with Windows, and 3) 
> I suspect that if I re-read the manual I'd find a backup command to 
> the microSD card in the radio.
>
> Backtracking to previous issues, I just discovered that the default 
> scrollback limit with Ubuntu is 512 lines.  Gak!!
>
> thanks,,,
>    Alan,,,   n4lbl
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:40 AM, W Paul Mills <AC0HY at wpmills.com 
> <mailto:AC0HY at wpmills.com>> wrote:
>
>     Problem is, this is an operating system / cable hardware issue. There
>     would need to be different instructions for each operating system and
>     possible cable type. All for something that is not a part of chirp. If
>     anyone should be providing this information, it should be the
>     manufacturer of the cable you are using.
>
>     By default, linux users tend to be somewhat on their own on these
>     things, regardless of manufacturer. Things linux users need to
>     understand to some degree are the /dev/ directory, lsusb command, and
>     groups and sometimes file permissions.
>
>     And windows users don't get a free ride either, because of the things
>     that often get done behind your back. One needs to be familiar with
>     device manager, and need to know about rolling back drivers in some
>     cases. And this can become a major pain. This can even be a
>     problem when
>     using factory supplied software.
>
>     Add to this numerous problems caused by some manufacturers using
>     counterfeit chips, and chip makers attempting to protect
>     themselves from
>     this.
>
>     On 02/12/2015 05:44 AM, Brian Carling wrote:
>     > I wish they would put all the stuff on the chirp website so we can
>     > actually use it!
>     >
>     > Best regards - Brian Carling
>     > AF4K Crystals Co.
>     > 117 Sterling Pine St.
>     > Sanford, FL 32773
>     >
>     > Tel: +USA 321-262-5471 <tel:321-262-5471>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Feb 11, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Amber Fechko
>     <amber at dendriticspine.com <mailto:amber at dendriticspine.com>
>     > <mailto:amber at dendriticspine.com
>     <mailto:amber at dendriticspine.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Make sure you're not running through an external USB hub or
>     anything;
>     >> connect directly to the computer.
>     >>
>     >> Try disconnecting the cable, and then running:
>     >>
>     >> user at host:~$ dmesg
>     >> (a ton of system messages should stream by)
>     >>
>     >> Then reconnect your cable, turn on radio/volume up (shouldn't be
>     >> necessary for dmesg output, but might as well do it now), and
>     run the
>     >> same command:
>     >>
>     >> user at host:~$ dmesg
>     >> (all of the previous system messages, and hopefully something new
>     >> indicating a usb->serial device like below)
>     >> [430941.789785] usb 2-1.7: new full-speed USB device number 49
>     using
>     >> ehci-pci
>     >> [430941.883258] usb 2-1.7: New USB device found, idVendor=067b,
>     >> idProduct=2303
>     >> [430941.883267] usb 2-1.7: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,
>     Product=2,
>     >> SerialNumber=0
>     >> [430941.883272] usb 2-1.7: Product: USB-Serial Controller
>     >> [430941.883277] usb 2-1.7: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc.
>     >> [430941.883801] pl2303 2-1.7:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
>     >> [430941.885384] usb 2-1.7: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
>     >>
>     >> Assuming your system registers the usb->serial cable, you
>     should see
>     >> it in dmesg w/the device it was assigned (/dev/ttyUSB0 in my
>     case --
>     >> vdir /dev/ttyUSB* is faster if you just need the device ID, but if
>     >> vdir isn't showing anything, dmesg might give you a hint as to
>     why).
>     >>
>     >> I had to enter /dev/ttyUSB0 manually in the "Port" section of
>     CHIRP --
>     >> it didn't show by default unless I restarted CHIRP after the
>     cable was
>     >> connected.
>     >>
>     >> -Amber
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, n4lbl <alan.schulman at gmail.com
>     <mailto:alan.schulman at gmail.com>
>     >> <mailto:alan.schulman at gmail.com <mailto:alan.schulman at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Thanks.  I suspect that this is interesting:
>     >>
>     >>         n4lbl at eel:~$ vdir /dev/ttyUSB
>     >>         vdir: cannot access /dev/ttyUSB: No such file or directory
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:10 PM, W Paul Mills
>     <AC0HY at wpmills.com <mailto:AC0HY at wpmills.com>
>     >>     <mailto:AC0HY at wpmills.com <mailto:AC0HY at wpmills.com>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>         Should be showing as /dev/ttyUSB0 or something similar.
>     From a
>     >>         text box
>     >>         or terminal screen type "vdir /dev/ttyUSB*" and see
>     what the
>     >>         results
>     >>         show. If nothing shows, your cable is not being
>     recognised. If
>     >>         it shows,
>     >>         but not in chirp text box, type it in, and it should work.
>     >>
>     >>         On 02/11/2015 02:49 PM, n4lbl wrote:
>     >>         > When trying to download I get the message:
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     An error has occurred
>     >>         >     Could not configure port: (5, 'Input/output error')
>     >>         >
>     >>         > ​The environment is Ubuntu 14.04, Chirp daily -20150210,
>     >>         cable SCU-18
>     >>         > with power light on, HT in CLONE mode.
>     >>         >
>     >>         > ​The Radio box presents port choices /dev/ttyS0 thru
>     >>         /dev/ttyS31 and I
>     >>         > have tried many of these but not all, and always received
>     >>         the same exact
>     >>         > message.  There were no USB possibilities presented.​
>     >>         >
>     >>         > The message said nothing of permissions.  I did check
>     anyway
>     >>         and saw:
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     n4lbl at eel:~$ groups n4lbl
>     >>         >     n4lbl : n4lbl adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio
>     >>         dip video
>     >>         >     plugdev fuse scanner lpadmin netdev sambashare
>     >>         >
>     >>         > ​so that seems OK.​
>     >>         >
>     >>         > The HT's internal code is ancient:  from when I
>     bought it in
>     >>         Nov. or
>     >>         > Dec. '13.  My intention was to back it up before
>     upgrading
>     >>         the code.
>     >>         >
>     >>         > This is sure to be a knuckleheaded mistake or something I
>     >>         didn't read or
>     >>         > forgot.
>     >>         > ​  Thanks,,,
>     >>         >
>     >>         > Alan,,,   n4lbl​
>     >>         >
>     >>         >
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