[chirp_users] How in the world . . . .

[John Rice]

Tom,

The fact that the unsubscribe information is in the header, for a 
mailing list, is irrelevant in todays world. Todays email user has 
absolutely no knowledge of email headers or even how to find them.  If a 
list owner wants the subscriber to see how to unsubscribe, a direct link 
must be put in the message footer.

Yeah, those of us that have been around for a long time know it's in the 
header, but then, those of us who have been around a long time know how 
to unsubscribe from a mailing list.

Tom Hayward wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Forrest Joyner<wfj at usa.com>  wrote:
>> ——>>>>  Perhaps if the list owner would add a tag to the lines at the bottom,
>> as many lists do, that says: “to UNSUBSCRIBE click here:” and the list URL.
>> I’m sure that wouldn’t 100% fix it, but it might be an assisting step or at
>> least something those who are ruffled could point to in disgust.  :)
>
> This is actually included in every message, but it's in the headers.
> Here's an example:
>
> List-Unsubscribe:<http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users>,
> <mailto:chirp_users-request at intrepid.danplanet.com?subject=unsubscribe>
>
> This is the "correct" way to provide an unsubscribe link, as specified
> in RFC 2369 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html. Capable MUAs should
> present this to the user in the form of a big unsubscribe button.
> Unfortunately, many users will use MUAs that don't support this.
>
> On a grander scale, I have to wonder how these users got subscribed in
> the first place. The subscribe and unsubscribe processes are the same,
> so they most have been capable of figuring it out at some point if
> they successfully subscribed. Luckily, this also means most users
> incapable of unsubscribing themselves will never figure out how to
> subscribe in the first place.
>
> Tom KD7LXL
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