[chirp_users] feature request - accessibility

[Eric Oyen]

funny, either I can't tell emotional content via email, or that didn't sound like sarcasm to me. Still, it is a valid point. I have run into a great barrier on paid software over the last decade or so. I pay money and have this nice "gee wiz" software package only to discover that it can't be used with JAWS. Makes it hard to justify the expense (and good luck getting the money back!).

a few notes on the Chirp package itself:
1. if there are little text descriptors, they aren't visible to the screen reader (orca in Vinux).
2 I can't even install on windows right now as the A/v package keeps getting in the way (its not an infection warning, but appears to be a popup).

-eric

On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Bob J. wrote:

> Your sarcasm proves my point!
> 
> AD8RJ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Bee/Quicksilver Radio" <jbee at qsradio.com>
> To: "'Discussion of CHIRP'" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] feature request - accessibility
> 
> 
> Right you are Bob.
> 
> Considering that you are required to use their software, and given the
> outrageous price they charge for it, you'd think they could at least spend a
> few more programming minutes to accommodate an additional large percentage
> of potential users.  
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> John Bee N1GNV
> Quicksilver Radio Products
> www.qsradio.com
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com
> [mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Bob J.
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:44 PM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] feature request - accessibility
> 
> Eric,
> 
> I understand your frustrations with these conditions!  Quick & dirty is the
> methodoligy of developers such as these and they really don't care whether
> or not you or I can use their software.
> 
> AD8RJ
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "eric oyen" <eric.oyen at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] feature request - accessibility
> 
> 
> thanks.
> still, its very frustrating not to be able to use the program the way others
> can and only on linux (then again, I can't tell what half the settings are
> because they aren't labeled).
> 
> I really do have to ask the developer to put himself in my shoes for a
> while. How can a person manipulate the features and controls in a program if
> they aren't labeled or are invisible? This is the consideration I ask.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Bob J. wrote:
> 
>> Best wishes, Eric!
>> 
>> AD8RJ
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "eric oyen" <eric.oyen at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:11 AM
>> Subject: [chirp_users] feature request - accessibility
>> 
>> 
>> hello,
>> 
>> well, I just tried out the new chirp 0.4.0 on Linux. everything seems to
> work except for the following issues:
>> 1. spin buttons not labeled as anything other than "spin button #"
>> 2. check boxes not labeled as to function
>> 3. edit boxes not labeled as to type
>> 4. popup boxes not labeled with additional information as to what they are
>> 5. the loaded table from the radio reads OK except that when sculling
> down, the cell below is read as the cell left of the one actually being
> looked at
>> 6 exporting to CSV file results in an error: "settings object has no
> attribute.: 'pre fill'".
>> 
>> if this seems like a lot, it probably is. However, I really would like to
> be able to use a computer program to program my Bao-Fang without sighted
> assistance. I know this seems to be a sore point, but it does have to be
> dealt with at some point. If I had the time and resources to devote to
> learning and coding in python, I would. However, I don't. Its a simple
> matter of not having time (I am attending classes to get a degree here and
> can't add even one more thing to my plate). .
>> 
>> so, how about it? can you look at these?
>> 
>> if you need further information on non-visual interfaces in python, check
> here:
>> 1. http://empowermentzone.com/NonvisualDevelopmentFAQ.htm
>> 2.
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptu
> al/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html
>> 
>> Me and thousands of other blind hams who use radios supported by this
> program would greatly appreciate being able to do so without waiting on
> someone with working eyes to do it for us.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Eric
>> .
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