[chirp_users] Unused Fields Option and the missing NONE selections

Mike Morrow
Thu Jul 31 04:13:29 PDT 2014


Well thanks for the tongue lashing (that's a little overboard) but it 
was a little lecture on the "Hide Unused Fields" checkbox and how it is 
now going to be the default and solve all my problems.

IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!  Read on to learn why.

So I load up my data and change the option to hide unused fields. OK, 
all those pesky 88.5s in the sheet magically disappear.  OK, great.

But then I change one of the PLs to 100.0.  Oops, since there are no 
horizontal lines to help guide me across a sea of blankness, I got one 
off and meant to change the next one down.  OK, just set it back off by 
... uhhhh...  THERE IS NO "NONE" selection.  I CANNOT SET IT BACK TO 
OFF!!  Aww nuts, now I have to either delete this memory and enter it in 
again or kill all my updates and reload the sheet and start again.  
Neither is a good thing to have to do because of a missing option in a 
box on a sheet without any guide rules (lines) to help me get it right 
in the first place.

You see, good programming practice is good programming practice. 
Band-Aids are NOT GOOD PROGRAMMING PRACTICE.

Not sorry about the screaming.  I worked in computers for 30+ years.  I 
was trained and also taught myself and taught classes about good 
programming practice.  And what CHIRP is trying to do with this Band-Aid 
is just plain wrong.  If you can set something on, you must be able to 
set it off, too.

As I said.  If I had produced something like this and put it out to the 
field, I would have been fired!

Now it is time that someone, somewhere in the organization realized that 
there HAS to be a NONE selection to turn off a PL or any other selection 
that is no longer needed or was entered by mistake.  And as far as I can 
tell, that is not possible since there is no NONE selection.

Am I wrong?  If so, I apologize in advance and await another tongue lashing.

Thanks to all for all the hard work but someone missed a standard design 
point on multiple of the columns.

Mike





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