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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Should be 0.3.3, but I confess I didn’t verify it when I downloaded and installed them last week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’ll be able to get things set back up on Saturday as well and can take some screenshots.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As an aside for anyone who’s interested, our club has participated for the last 3-4 years in a science fair at a local elementary school. Over the years we’ve done a number of different demonstrations, and this year we had one that used an IC-92AD going through a DVAP dongle doing voice and two stations doing the D-Rats RF demo. We had a lot of fun with the kids – sometimes the hardest part was simply getting them involved. Most of the kids were probably 8-12 or so. Once we got their minds onto the topic of radio and started drawing connections between CW, TV, car radios, and cell phones, our demo of being able to send email, text, and files via D-Rats without a radio station or cell phone system resonated both with the kids and their parents. There were a number of adults and teachers attending the event that were really amazed that this was part of amateur radio. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We also had one member create CW oscillators, a another operate a VHF station where kids talked to other club members around our county via repeater. In past years we’ve done HF stations and even had one of the local EM commvans out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In our area we’ve had some good proponents of D-Star’s advantages but few working demos – which is one of the reasons I’m trying to get some of this stuff “nailed down” and working – if I can get the time I would like to put together a “D-Rats/D-Star for Dummies” guide to help others out as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rob, NR3O<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Heitmann<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 07, 2014 4:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of D-RATS<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [drats_users] Internet email gateway<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Rob, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What version of D-RATS?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm in Orlando for business (and staying the weekend for HamCation) but I'll try and duplicate this on my home system in Missouri next week.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mike, N0SO<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:33 AM, "Rob Salsgiver" <<a href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com">rob@nr3o.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>No joy. Demo went fine, but was not able to do Internet mail outbound. Only had 1 rule defined, and that was for the remote RF station to be able to send both ways without a filter string.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Will setup the radios here at home again this weekend and give it another go, as I would like to have this nailed down for future demos. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know! I’ll see if I can do screenshots of the setups for reference and post them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rob / NR3O</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [<a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Salsgiver<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 06, 2014 7:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of D-RATS'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [drats_users] Internet email gateway</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Will do & let you know… unfortunately won’t be able to test until the demo tonight <g>. Thanks for the assist!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [<a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gord & Maureen Dick<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 05, 2014 10:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of D-RATS<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [drats_users] Internet email gateway</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've never played with the filters, try turning them off and see what happens. I don't have my computer handy to check, but I believe (not positive) there is another box you check for the messages to go out automatically.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gord<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>VE7FKY<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:49 PM, "Rob Salsgiver" <<a href="mailto:rob@quailsoftltd.net">rob@quailsoftltd.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Certainly did. Using my wife’s call s the remote station, and have her call setup as BOTH, using her call sign as the filter. Should I remove the filter?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [<a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gord & Maureen Dick<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 05, 2014 10:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of D-RATS<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [drats_users] Internet email gateway</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On the unit going to the internet have you listed the call signs of the other stations involved in the email access section.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gord<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>VE7FKY<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "Rob Salsgiver" <<a href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com">rob@nr3o.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Greetings all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Been working on a demo for tomorrow night and having some trouble getting the last of the wrinkles worked out to and from the Internet (email) via D-Rats. Here’s the current setup:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>One (1) laptop and IC-92AD setup as RF only<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>One (1) netbook and IC-92AD setup as RF and Internet connected<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I can send chats, QSTs, and emails via RF from one laptop to the other (both ways)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I can send email from the Internet and receive it into D-Rats on the Internet connected laptop.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I can manually forward the Internet email to the remote IC-92AD and laptop via RF, and it arrives on the remote laptop as it should.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I cannot seem to do is SEND from the RF connected laptop out to a remote Internet email account. When I send the email it DOES go to the Internet connected laptop, but it does not leave that laptop – it just hangs in the outbox.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve gone through the directions I can find and it all seems to be setup ok, and it’s probably 90-95% there – I’m just missing the other 5-10% <g>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As a related question – is there a setting that performs outgoing SMTP authentication? If it’s not authenticating, could that be the reason why it’s failing?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rob Salsgiver – NR3O<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>drats_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>drats_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>drats_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>