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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">That is true. The FEC is on the voice with 2400 bits for voice and 1200 for FEC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">John WB4QDX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Metcalf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 20, 2013 4:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of D-RATS<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [drats_users] ERROR Correction in slow speed data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Agreed. From what I have read d-star is a lot like the UDP network protocol where it is transmit and forget there is no handshaking / error correction built in. It is up to the application developer to handle error correction and the d-rats package does
 perform some level of error correction.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dan Metcalf - KB3UUN.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 20, 2013 3:54 PM, &quot;John Davis&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jdavis@gtworks.com">jdavis@gtworks.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">My understanding is that the low speed data channel does NOT have error correction, however, D-RATS
 offers Error correction in Message and File Transfer modes where it is most important.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Welker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 20, 2013 3:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> D-Rats Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [drats_users] ERROR Correction in slow speed data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Can anyone confirm if the D-RATS slow speed data has FEC (Forward Error Correction) built in now or not?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I understand that D-STAR voice does have error correction built in.&nbsp; I've checked on the D-RATS home page/documentation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">which is a August 2009 reference.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This is what I found in this document Under users manual/files:&nbsp; Is this still current information?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><strong><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Unlike the D-STAR DV Voice Channel, which has error correction built into the protocol, the Data Sub-channel
 has no error correction. </span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><strong><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">This makes the transfer of data across D-STAR a lot more dependant&nbsp;on a good radio path being established between
 the two locations wishing to </span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><strong><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">exchange data.&nbsp; D-RATS includes the ability to test connectivity between two locations</span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">.</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks in advance</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dave</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Goals are where we want to be;<br>
Objectives are the steps to get there.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">There are 2 rules to success in life:<br>
1. Don't tell people everything you know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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