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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: drats_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com &lt;drats_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com&gt;<BR>Subject: drats_users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 5<BR>To: drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com<BR>Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 5:07 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Send drats_users mailing list submissions to<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users" target=_blank>http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</A><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com"
 ymailto="mailto:drats_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-owner@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of drats_users digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1. Re: What do I Tell my Friends?? (David Holman)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2. Re: What do I Tell my Friends?? (John Davis)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:02:08 -0700<BR>From: David Holman &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=radiodadenator@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:radiodadenator@gmail.com">radiodadenator@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
 ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt;<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=51131930.8010902@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:51131930.8010902@gmail.com">51131930.8010902@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Kent,<BR><BR>I don't have a packet modem...&nbsp; My radio is an ID-880H...&nbsp; How do you<BR>use D-RATS as an X.25 modem program?? I do have a Tiny Trak 4 that I<BR>could plug into the radio, but I would still need some kind of soundcard<BR>software to generate the Packet Tones.<BR><BR>I have APRSIS on this computer.... <BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>David, AC7DS<BR><BR>Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.<BR>Ben Franklin<BR><BR>When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.<BR>Thomas
 Jefferson<BR><BR>On 02/06/2013 07:54 PM, Kent Hufford wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; You use DRATS as a regular x.25 packet modem program.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Can use the modem built into the Kenwood d710.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; When you use DRATS with DSTAR you get mapping display. But I am not<BR>&gt; sure if you try it in FM packet mode do you get APRS support like<BR>&gt; WinAPRS or UIView.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Kent<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; *From:*<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR>&gt; [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>] *On Behalf Of<BR>&gt;
 *David Holman<BR>&gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:47 PM<BR>&gt; *To:* Discussion of D-RATS<BR>&gt; *Subject:* Re: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Kent,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How do you do that??&nbsp; Can you also use it for APRS? <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; David, AC7DS<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.<BR>&gt; Ben Franklin<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.<BR>&gt; Thomas Jefferson<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On 02/06/2013 02:26 PM, Kent Hufford wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You can run DRATS on regular FM packet as the packet software.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kent<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;KQ4KK<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;
 &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*From:*<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>] *On Behalf Of<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DESloan@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:DESloan@aol.com">DESloan@aol.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A
 href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DESloan@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:DESloan@aol.com">DESloan@aol.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:23 PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*To:* <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Subject:* [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am trying to get several other hams who are also in our local<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;RACES group to give D-Rats a try. So far they continue
 working on<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;getting packet up and working locally. But, are showing no<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;interest in using D-Rats. What else can I tell the as to why they<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;should try D-Rats?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dave Sloan N0EOP<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;EXAMS Chair Dayton Hamvention ? 2013<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;c 765-969-2212<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;drats_users mailing list<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
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 target=_blank>http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</A><BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/drats_users/attachments/20130206/8ff45769/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank>http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/drats_users/attachments/20130206/8ff45769/attachment-0001.html</A> <BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 03:07:22 +0000<BR>From: John Davis &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=JDavis@gtworks.com" ymailto="mailto:JDavis@gtworks.com">JDavis@gtworks.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS &lt;<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt;<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A
 href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=7CB69266E5742D4E8CCC617BB429FA7A90211E97@CAS.ed-com.net" ymailto="mailto:7CB69266E5742D4E8CCC617BB429FA7A90211E97@CAS.ed-com.net">7CB69266E5742D4E8CCC617BB429FA7A90211E97@CAS.ed-com.net</A>&gt;<BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>It takes a TNC or sound card interface to the 6-pin mini-DIN on the 880 operating in FM mode to use that functionality.&nbsp; It does take a KISS TNC like a KPC-3+. Also keep in mind that to bridge D-RATS and packet you would configure a PC with a Ratflector with a connection to a D-STAR radio and a separate FM radio with a KISS TNC.<BR><BR>John WB4QDX<BR><BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A> [mailto:<A
 href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>] On Behalf Of David Holman<BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:02 PM<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS<BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR><BR>Kent,<BR><BR>I don't have a packet modem...&nbsp; My radio is an ID-880H...&nbsp; How do you use D-RATS as an X.25 modem program?? I do have a Tiny Trak 4 that I could plug into the radio, but I would still need some kind of soundcard software to generate the Packet Tones.<BR><BR>I have APRSIS on this computer....<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>David, AC7DS<BR><BR><BR><BR>Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.<BR><BR>Ben Franklin<BR><BR><BR><BR>When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the
 government, there is tyranny.<BR><BR>Thomas Jefferson<BR>On 02/06/2013 07:54 PM, Kent Hufford wrote:<BR>You use DRATS as a regular x.25 packet modem program.<BR><BR>Can use the modem built into the Kenwood d710.<BR><BR>When you use DRATS with DSTAR you get mapping display. But I am not sure if you try it in FM packet mode do you get APRS support like WinAPRS or UIView.<BR><BR>Kent<BR><BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt; [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com"
 ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>] On Behalf Of David Holman<BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:47 PM<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS<BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR><BR>Kent,<BR><BR>How do you do that??&nbsp; Can you also use it for APRS?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>David, AC7DS<BR><BR><BR><BR>Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.<BR><BR>Ben Franklin<BR><BR><BR><BR>When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.<BR><BR>Thomas Jefferson<BR>On 02/06/2013 02:26 PM, Kent Hufford wrote:<BR>You can run DRATS on regular FM packet as the packet software.<BR><BR>Kent<BR>KQ4KK<BR><BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com"
 ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt; [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>] On Behalf Of <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DESloan@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:DESloan@aol.com">DESloan@aol.com</A>&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DESloan@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:DESloan@aol.com">DESloan@aol.com</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:23 PM<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
 ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&lt;mailto:<A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" ymailto="mailto:drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: [drats_users] What do I Tell my Friends??<BR><BR>I am trying to get several other hams who are also in our local RACES group to give D-Rats a try. So far they continue working on getting packet up and working locally. But, are showing no interest in using D-Rats. What else can I tell the as to why they should try D-Rats?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dave Sloan N0EOP<BR>EXAMS Chair Dayton Hamvention (r) 2013<BR>c 765-969-2212<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><BR>drats_users mailing list<BR><BR><A href="http://us.mc1411.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drats_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
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