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<div>I sent you a seperate msg with my dbug logs. Also thanks on the GPS msg that was simple! I'll test once I get back to Atlanta and a D-Star system and let you know if my data is transmitted properly.</div>
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<div >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: drats_users Digest, Vol 3, Issue 8<BR>From: drats_users-request@lists.danplanet.com<BR>Date: Mon, November 24, 2008 11:12 am<BR>To: drats_users@lists.danplanet.com<BR><BR>Send drats_users mailing list submissions to<BR>drats_users@lists.danplanet.com<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR><a href="http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users" target=_blank mce_href="http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users">http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</a><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>drats_users-request@lists.danplanet.com<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>drats_users-owner@lists.danplanet.com<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of drats_users digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>1. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Dan Smith)<BR>2. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Andrew Rich)<BR>3. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Dan Smith)<BR>4. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)<BR>5. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Dan Smith)<BR>6. Re: D-Rats and the GPS functions (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)<BR>7. CHAT TOO LONG (IZ5FSA)<BR>8. Re: CHAT TOO LONG (Dan Smith)<BR>9. Re: CHAT TOO LONG (IZ5FSA)<BR>10. Re: CHAT TOO LONG (Dave Cooley)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:47:27 -0800<BR>From: Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4924431F.8040301@danplanet.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<BR><BR>> Two things I notice, (1) in the map window I keep loosing the GPS lock <BR>> and<BR><BR>Okay, can you send me your debug log? D-RATS may be having a hard time <BR>parsing some of your GPS's strings which causes it to think the lock is <BR>gone.<BR><BR>> (2) my maps never work even after I download maps within a 100 miles <BR>> radius of my position I have even tried sitting in my driveway with <BR>> internet access from my wireless still no maps just a black screen two <BR>> small white boxes with a red X and no data in the boxes.<BR><BR>This is probably related to the above. If you are using an external GPS <BR>and don't have a lock, D-RATS will assume 0,0 which you probably didn't <BR>download maps for :)<BR><BR>> Also should I be able to transmit my GPS data to other d-rats users? I <BR>> setup with symbol in the GPS setting but no one sees that info.<BR><BR>Yes, just add a new QST of type GPS. When the QST fires (or when you <BR>force it) D-RATS will send out your position.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dan Smith<BR>dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/<BR><A href="http://www.danplanet.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.danplanet.com">www.danplanet.com</A><BR>KK7DS<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:06:18 +1000<BR>From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@people.net.au><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: "Discussion of D-RATS" <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <583B984A80AC4FB0BA47B3B176923299@Laptop1520><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>What stops drats from being used with normal packet ?<BR><BR>Normal packet goes further and has error checking ?<BR><BR><BR>From: Dan Smith <BR>Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:47 AM<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR><BR><BR>> Two things I notice, (1) in the map window I keep loosing the GPS lock <BR>> and<BR><BR>Okay, can you send me your debug log? D-RATS may be having a hard time <BR>parsing some of your GPS's strings which causes it to think the lock is <BR>gone.<BR><BR>> (2) my maps never work even after I download maps within a 100 miles <BR>> radius of my position I have even tried sitting in my driveway with <BR>> internet access from my wireless still no maps just a black screen two <BR>> small white boxes with a red X and no data in the boxes.<BR><BR>This is probably related to the above. If you are using an external GPS <BR>and don't have a lock, D-RATS will assume 0,0 which you probably didn't <BR>download maps for :)<BR><BR>> Also should I be able to transmit my GPS data to other d-rats users? I <BR>> setup with symbol in the GPS setting but no one sees that info.<BR><BR>Yes, just add a new QST of type GPS. When the QST fires (or when you <BR>force it) D-RATS will send out your position.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dan Smith<BR>dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/<BR><A href="http://www.danplanet.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.danplanet.com">www.danplanet.com</A><BR>KK7DS<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>drats_users mailing list<BR>drats_users@lists.danplanet.com<BR><a href="http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users" target=_blank mce_href="http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users">http://lists.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/drats_users</a><BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.avg.com">http://www.avg.com</a> <BR>Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <a href="http://lists.danplanet.com/pipermail/drats_users/attachments/20081120/97f143c4/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank mce_href="http://lists.danplanet.com/pipermail/drats_users/attachments/20081120/97f143c4/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.danplanet.com/pipermail/drats_users/attachments/20081120/97f143c4/attachment-0001.html</a> <BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:23:16 -0800<BR>From: Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <492483C4.9060005@danplanet.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR><BR>> What stops drats from being used with normal packet ?<BR>> <BR>> Normal packet goes further and has error checking ?<BR><BR>I'm not sure what you're asking exactly...<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dan Smith<BR>dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/<BR><A href="http://www.danplanet.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.danplanet.com">www.danplanet.com</A><BR>KK7DS<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:23:03 +1100<BR>From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" <vk3jed@vkradio.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <492491da.08b38c0a.626b.3e18@mx.google.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed<BR><BR>At 08:23 AM 11/20/2008, you wrote:<BR>> > What stops drats from being used with normal packet ?<BR>> ><BR>> > Normal packet goes further and has error checking ?<BR>><BR>>I'm not sure what you're asking exactly...<BR><BR>I think he's asking whether you could hook D-RATS into a TNC and make <BR>it work over AX.25 packet radio, rather than using a D-STAR radio.<BR><BR>73 de VK3JED<BR><a href="http://vkradio.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://vkradio.com">http://vkradio.com</a><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:19:25 -0800<BR>From: Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4924BB1D.6020603@danplanet.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR><BR>> I think he's asking whether you could hook D-RATS into a TNC and make <BR>> it work over AX.25 packet radio, rather than using a D-STAR radio.<BR><BR>Ah, okay.<BR><BR>D-RATS assumes a bare serial line to do its work. Its protocol does <BR>much of what the TNC and AX.25 do, which is handle retransmits and error <BR>detection. I don't know much about packet, but if there is any way to <BR>get a bare serial line (real or simulated) across the packet connection, <BR>then you could conceivably use D-RATS across it. In other words, you <BR>can use D-RATS with a NULL modem cable; it doesn't have to be a D-STAR <BR>radio specifically.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dan Smith<BR>dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/<BR><A href="http://www.danplanet.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.danplanet.com">www.danplanet.com</A><BR>KK7DS<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 6<BR>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:37:23 +1100<BR>From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" <vk3jed@vkradio.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] D-Rats and the GPS functions<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4924bf60.20038e0a.4be0.3ed7@mx.google.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed<BR><BR>At 12:19 PM 11/20/2008, you wrote:<BR>> > I think he's asking whether you could hook D-RATS into a TNC and make<BR>> > it work over AX.25 packet radio, rather than using a D-STAR radio.<BR>><BR>>Ah, okay.<BR>><BR>>D-RATS assumes a bare serial line to do its work. Its protocol does<BR>>much of what the TNC and AX.25 do, which is handle retransmits and error<BR>>detection. I don't know much about packet, but if there is any way to<BR>>get a bare serial line (real or simulated) across the packet connection,<BR>>then you could conceivably use D-RATS across it. In other words, you<BR>>can use D-RATS with a NULL modem cable; it doesn't have to be a D-STAR<BR>>radio specifically.<BR><BR>You would have to manually setup the TNC and any connections first, <BR>but once setup, the connection would be suitable for chat. I <BR>wouldn't attempt file transfer on it for a multitude of reasons (not <BR>the least of which is the timing is going to be way out of whack).<BR><BR>73 de VK3JED<BR><a href="http://vkradio.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://vkradio.com">http://vkradio.com</a><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 7<BR>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:41:14 +0100<BR>From: IZ5FSA <iz5fsa@gmail.com><BR>Subject: [drats_users] CHAT TOO LONG<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4927D3BA.4070609@gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed<BR><BR>I've seen that if I chat with a string longer then (about) 20 characters other <BR>stations receive "raw unformatted text" on their D-RATS.<BR><BR>This happen on latest 0.2.8b7<BR><BR>vy 73s de Leo, IZ5FSA<BR><BR>\\|//<BR>(- o)<BR>+----oooO-(_)-Oooo----+<BR>| MDXC # 201 |<BR>| YACT # 001 |<BR>| <A href="http://www.ariscandicci.it" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.ariscandicci.it">www.ariscandicci.it</A> |<BR>| <A href="http://www.425dxn.org" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.425dxn.org">www.425dxn.org</A> |<BR>+----oooO-----Oooo----+<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 8<BR>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:57:36 -0800<BR>From: Dan Smith <dsmith@danplanet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] CHAT TOO LONG<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4928B890.5090607@danplanet.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>> I've seen that if I chat with a string longer then (about) 20 characters other <BR>> stations receive "raw unformatted text" on their D-RATS.<BR><BR>I tend to think that this is just luck, given that a longer string has<BR>more exposure for corruption than a shorter one. I'm definitely not<BR>seeing this with the 0.2.8b7 and I have been doing a fair bit of testing<BR>on it with local people in the last week.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dan Smith<BR>dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/<BR><A href="http://www.danplanet.com" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.danplanet.com">www.danplanet.com</A><BR>KK7DS<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 9<BR>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:05:10 +0100<BR>From: IZ5FSA <iz5fsa@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] CHAT TOO LONG<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <492AECD6.2010207@gmail.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR><BR><BR>Dan Smith ha scritto:<BR>>> I've seen that if I chat with a string longer then (about) 20 characters other <BR>>> stations receive "raw unformatted text" on their D-RATS.<BR>> <BR>> I tend to think that this is just luck, given that a longer string has<BR>> more exposure for corruption than a shorter one. I'm definitely not<BR>> seeing this with the 0.2.8b7 and I have been doing a fair bit of testing<BR>> on it with local people in the last week.<BR>> <BR><BR>No, I confirm that chat strings longer then 40 characters are not sent.<BR>The time RTX remain in TX is lower than a little message like "QRZ???".<BR>I'm on latest beta.<BR><BR>73s de Leo, IZ5FSA<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 10<BR>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:12:51 -0500<BR>From: "Dave Cooley" <dave@proficia.com><BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] CHAT TOO LONG<BR>To: "'Discussion of D-RATS'" <drats_users@lists.danplanet.com><BR>Message-ID: <4AD9D5946948459C9FD5651C11E05566@BIGDELL><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>You might try a file transfer and see if it is with all DRATS functions. I<BR>have cut and pasted large text files in the chat window before and had no<BR>problem. It may be a hardware/comm uissue..<BR><BR>Dave<BR>N4DIB<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: drats_users-bounces@lists.danplanet.com<BR>[<A onclick="return true;if(window.location==top.location){Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=drats_users-bounces%40lists.danplanet.com');}else{top.Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=drats_users-bounces%40lists.danplanet.com');} return false;" href="http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose" mce_href="http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose">mailto:drats_users-bounces<B></B>@lists.danplanet.com</A>] On Behalf Of IZ5FSA<BR>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:05 PM<BR>To: Discussion of D-RATS<BR>Subject: Re: [drats_users] CHAT TOO LONG<BR><BR><BR><BR>Dan Smith ha scritto:<BR>>> I've seen that if I chat with a string longer then (about) 20 <BR>>> characters other<BR>>> stations receive "raw unformatted text" on their D-RATS.<BR>> <BR>> I tend to think that this is just luck, given that a longer string has <BR>> more exposure for corruption than a shorter one. I'm definitely not <BR>> seeing this with the 0.2.8b7 and I have been doing a fair bit of <BR>> testing on it with local people in the last week.<BR>> <BR><BR>No, I confirm that chat strings longer then 40 characters are not sent. The<BR>time RTX remain in TX is lower than a little message like "QRZ???". 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