[drats_users] drats_users Digest, Vol 4, Issue 17
Larry Mohr
Sat Dec 20 09:37:21 PST 2008
Hi Shawn,
I was just curious. I've spent all my mad money on Christmas toys for the
moment, but thanks for the thought.
Best to you and yours at Christmas.
73,
K9LMM
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: CentOS5 problem with d-rats-0.2.9b5 (Dan Smith)
2. CentOS5 problem with d-rats-0.2.9b5 (Adrian)
3. Map Downloader Question (Dave Cooley)
4. Re: Map Downloader Question (Dan Smith)
5. Re: Map Downloader Question (Dave Cooley)
6. Re: Map Downloader Question (Dan Smith)
7. Re: Map Downloader Question (Dave Cooley)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:57:21 -0800
From: Dan Smith <dsmith at danplanet.com>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] CentOS5 problem with d-rats-0.2.9b5
To: Discussion of D-RATS <drats_users at lists.danplanet.com>
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> No success yet & current progress to here now Dan;
Ah, yet another module that CentOS is missing. Luckily I didn't actually
use it for anything. I've just posted b12 with that bit removed.
Thanks :)
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:11:57 +1000
From: Adrian <vk4tux at bigpond.com>
Subject: [drats_users] CentOS5 problem with d-rats-0.2.9b5
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All good now Dan, I don't use the python set-up as I use a shell script
to launch anyhow, and just update the script for new versions coming out
(below shell outputs are just used to see any errors when gui does not
launch, i.e. not used to run program).
d-rats shell script;
---------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/bash
cd /root/download/D-Star/d-rats-linux2/d-rats-0.2.9b12
./d-rats
#./d-rats --safe
----------------------------------------------------------------
repeater shell script;
----------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/bash
cd /root/download/D-Star/d-rats-linux2/d-rats-0.2.9b12
./d-rats_repeater
----------------------------------------------------------------
A play with the chirp python set-up sent the launcher to ?lost and
found? on centOS 5 kde menu, which I moved to my dstar section.
Latest(working) output for d-rats-0.2.9b12;
root at localhost ~]# cd /root/download/D-Star/d-rats-linux2/d-rats-0.2.9b12
[root at localhost d-rats-0.2.9b12]# ./d-rats_repeater
Installing hashlib replacement hack
BeautifulSoup was not found. Geocoders assuming malformed markup will
not work.
(GUI up and going)
[root at localhost d-rats-0.2.9b12]# ./d-rats
Installing hashlib replacement hack
BeautifulSoup was not found. Geocoders assuming malformed markup will
not work.
FILE: /root/.d-rats/d-rats.config
Loading locale `en'
Locale dir is: ./locale
Static position: -26.132500,152.979444
Failed to get boolean: state/qsts_enabled
/root/download/D-Star/d-rats-linux2/d-rats-0.2.9b12/d_rats/mapdisplay.py:127
0:
Warning: value "((GtkWindowType) 2)" of type `GtkWindowType' is invalid
or out of range for property `type' of type `GtkWindowType'
self.info_window = gtk.Window(gtk.gdk.WINDOW_CHILD)
Adding group Stations
Failed to parse line `': Invalid CSV format:
Pane Height: 481
Set GPS units to Imperial
New data path: ('localhost', 9000)
Registered session 0: control
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Registered session 1: chat
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Registered session 2: Sniffer
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Registered session 3: rpc
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Doing QST qst_4
Starting QST `ON D-RATS'
Doing QST qst_6
Starting QST `http://rss.weather.com.au/qld/brisbane'
Doing QST qst_1
Starting QST `ON D-RATS'
Doing QST qst_2
Starting QST `V0.2.8b1 Hub; Brisbane Weather RSS feed reported every
half hour.'
GPS: False on @4800
Static position: -26.132500,152.979444
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Session GUI callback: new,existing 0
New session (existing) of type: d_rats.sessionmgr.ControlSession
*** Unknown session type: ControlSession
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Session GUI callback: new,existing 1
New session (existing) of type: d_rats.sessions.ChatSession
*** Unknown session type: ChatSession
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Session GUI callback: new,existing 2
New session (existing) of type: <class 'd_rats.sessions.SniffSession'>
*** Unknown session type: SniffSession
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FIRING SESSION CB
Session GUI callback: new,existing 3
New session (existing) of type: <class 'd_rats.rpcsession.RPCSession'>
*** Unknown session type: RPCSession
Registered Session CB
Refresh listeners: {}
Done with sessiongui refresh
FORMS: ['./forms/radiogram.xsl', './forms/memo.xml',
'./forms/ICS213_OR_WashCoARES.xsl', './forms/hics260.xml',
'./forms/default.xsl', './forms/radiogram.xml', './forms/email.xml',
'./forms/hics260.xsl', './forms/ICS213_OR_WashCoARES.xml',
'./forms/ICS213_US_OS.xsl', './forms/ICS213_US_OS.xml'] (.)
User has form radiogram.xsl
User has form memo.xml
User has form ICS213_OR_WashCoARES.xsl
User has form hics260.xml
User has form default.xsl
User has form radiogram.xml
User has form email.xml
User has form hics260.xsl
User has form ICS213_OR_WashCoARES.xml
User has form ICS213_US_OS.xsl
User has form ICS213_US_OS.xml
Sending warm-up: DDT2-: 0:0:254 !->! (...[8])
Sending block: DDT2-: 0:1:0 vk4tux->CQCQCQ (VK4TUX QRZ...[11])
Calling chat callback with {'Msg': 'D-RATS Repeater Proxy:
net:vk4tux.no-ip.org:9000', 'To': 'CQCQCQ', 'From': 'CQCQCQ'}
Received block 0:0 for session `chat'
(GUI up and going)
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:48:59 -0500
From: "Dave Cooley" <dave at proficia.com>
Subject: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
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While the new map downloader works nice and is easier it is also limited as
to the area it can cover (greater detail=less area)
Is there a way to use the old Map Downloader or will this present conflicts?
Dave Cooley
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:55:22 -0800
From: Dan Smith <dsmith at danplanet.com>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
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> While the new map downloader works nice and is easier it is also
> limited as to the area it can cover (greater detail=less area)
In what way is it more limited?
> Is there a way to use the old Map Downloader or will this present
> conflicts?
It won't cause any problems, but it also didn't work correctly. It
missed tiles on some boundaries.
--
Dan Smith
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KK7DS
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:14:23 -0500
From: "Dave Cooley" <dave at proficia.com>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
To: "'Discussion of D-RATS'" <drats_users at lists.danplanet.com>
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If I understand the downloader correctly, it works from a radius around the
given lat/lon points. The higher resolution you select the smaller the
radius.
With the old downloader you could specify a custom area (not a circle) and
what level you wanted to drill down to. This is extremely helpful for those
of us who want to download an area of interest other than a perfect circle
like a strip along the coast of Florida. It also allows us to define a
specific area (i.e. county boundaries) for areas of interest. For most ARES
and RACES groups I would think that the area of concern would be an entire
county and street level detail. The current downloader doesn't posses this
capability.
These maps can be loaded to the hard drive or a thumb drive for use when the
internet is not available (and these are the times when the would be needed
most in an encomm environment)
If the new downloader could be designed to enter boundaries (i.e. n,s,e &
w) along with the desired level, that would take care of it.
Thanks
P.S. b11 mail running fine all day. The gremlins have been exorcized!
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Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
> While the new map downloader works nice and is easier it is also
> limited as to the area it can cover (greater detail=less area)
In what way is it more limited?
> Is there a way to use the old Map Downloader or will this present
> conflicts?
It won't cause any problems, but it also didn't work correctly. It missed
tiles on some boundaries.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:31:49 -0800
From: Dan Smith <dsmith at danplanet.com>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
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> If I understand the downloader correctly, it works from a radius
> around the given lat/lon points. The higher resolution you select
> the smaller the radius.
No, not quite. The larger the radius, the lower the starting zoom level
is used. However, no matter what radius you choose, it always goes down
to street level.
So, if you choose a diameter of 15 miles, then it will get everything at
zoom levels 13-17 around your center. If you choose the 60 mile
diameter, then it will get zoom levels 11-17 around your center.
In short, the diameter you choose only affects how far *out* you can
zoom from your center.
> With the old downloader you could specify a custom area (not a
> circle) and what level you wanted to drill down to. This is extremely
> helpful for those of us who want to download an area of interest
> other than a perfect circle like a strip along the coast of Florida.
Your state is just poorly shaped, that's all :)
> It also allows us to define a specific area (i.e. county boundaries)
> for areas of interest. For most ARES and RACES groups I would think
> that the area of concern would be an entire county and street level
> detail. The current downloader doesn't posses this capability.
I think it does. Are you trying something and experiencing a problem,
or are you making an assumption based on the interface?
> If the new downloader could be designed to enter boundaries (i.e.
> n,s,e & w) along with the desired level, that would take care of it.
The way the data is available from the map source, this is harder than
it sounds, and significantly more complex, which is why the older design
didn't work very well.
I should also point out that the new one doesn't download a circle, it
downloads a square. The way the data is arranged, each (square) map
tile at zoom level X is the same area as four tiles at zoom level X+1.
This makes drilling down from a maximum zoom level a very easy calculation.
So, given the above information, and assuming you're not seeing a bug
which is causing it to behave other than intended, is there a problem?
I know that for regions like Florida, you'd have to choose a
significantly larger chunk of map than is really necessary to get the
whole state in one go, but I think that for the rest of us in
rectilinear locales, choosing a center and a maximum zoom is more
straightforward.
I hear more praise of the new approach over the old, which makes me
assume it's more useful that way.
Does anyone else feel strongly one way or the other? I'd hate to burn a
couple of Saturdays moving it back to the old and more complex model
just because some weirdo from a long-and-skinny state wanted it that
way... :P
> P.S. b11 mail running fine all day. The gremlins have been exorcized!
Good to hear! Keep pounding.. I'm extra paranoid now :)
--
Dan Smith
dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/
www.danplanet.com
KK7DS
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:57:15 -0500
From: "Dave Cooley" <dave at proficia.com>
Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
To: "'Discussion of D-RATS'" <drats_users at lists.danplanet.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Okay I was interpreting the interface incorrectly. The max zoom thing messed
me up. If I select the 120 mile radius, it will draw a circle (with square
edges due to the map tiles being square) 240 miles across centered on the
coordinates I input. Is this correct?
The we click start and come back in an hour.
I assume map tiles of water should take less time to download (unless we are
now plotting the favorite fishing holes) so it may not be that bad.
In that Florida and Texas represent non-rectilinear (cool word by the way)
geographic challeneges, I am sure that we can adapt to the thinking of the
rest...
P.S. now that we are on the subject when are you going to add aerial views
and weather to the realtime map overlays. I couldn't resist.........
Happy Holidays to all
Dave Cooley
N4DIB
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [drats_users] Map Downloader Question
> If I understand the downloader correctly, it works from a radius
> around the given lat/lon points. The higher resolution you select the
> smaller the radius.
No, not quite. The larger the radius, the lower the starting zoom level is
used. However, no matter what radius you choose, it always goes down to
street level.
So, if you choose a diameter of 15 miles, then it will get everything at
zoom levels 13-17 around your center. If you choose the 60 mile diameter,
then it will get zoom levels 11-17 around your center.
In short, the diameter you choose only affects how far *out* you can zoom
from your center.
> With the old downloader you could specify a custom area (not a
> circle) and what level you wanted to drill down to. This is extremely
> helpful for those of us who want to download an area of interest other
> than a perfect circle like a strip along the coast of Florida.
Your state is just poorly shaped, that's all :)
> It also allows us to define a specific area (i.e. county boundaries)
> for areas of interest. For most ARES and RACES groups I would think
> that the area of concern would be an entire county and street level
> detail. The current downloader doesn't posses this capability.
I think it does. Are you trying something and experiencing a problem, or
are you making an assumption based on the interface?
> If the new downloader could be designed to enter boundaries (i.e.
> n,s,e & w) along with the desired level, that would take care of it.
The way the data is available from the map source, this is harder than it
sounds, and significantly more complex, which is why the older design didn't
work very well.
I should also point out that the new one doesn't download a circle, it
downloads a square. The way the data is arranged, each (square) map tile at
zoom level X is the same area as four tiles at zoom level X+1. This makes
drilling down from a maximum zoom level a very easy calculation.
So, given the above information, and assuming you're not seeing a bug which
is causing it to behave other than intended, is there a problem? I know that
for regions like Florida, you'd have to choose a significantly larger chunk
of map than is really necessary to get the whole state in one go, but I
think that for the rest of us in rectilinear locales, choosing a center and
a maximum zoom is more straightforward.
I hear more praise of the new approach over the old, which makes me assume
it's more useful that way.
Does anyone else feel strongly one way or the other? I'd hate to burn a
couple of Saturdays moving it back to the old and more complex model just
because some weirdo from a long-and-skinny state wanted it that way... :P
> P.S. b11 mail running fine all day. The gremlins have been exorcized!
Good to hear! Keep pounding.. I'm extra paranoid now :)
--
Dan Smith
dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/
www.danplanet.com
KK7DS
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