<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">It IS a good trick. The rubber takes off any dust or gunk on the pins and allows them to make good contact. I suspect ‘grounding’ isn’t literal (except a pin or two) but it definitely does help with connectivity. These are tricks your grandmother tells you that you don’t find in books!<div><br></div><div>Also, if you have an air spray or IPA, they’ll both be beneficial. </div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 21 Oct 2023, at 19:11, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@arrl.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">How do you "ground" something with a rubber eraser?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">73</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">DR</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">N1EA</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:48 PM Chuck Hast <<a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com">kp4djt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Doing proper grounding, the old trick used for years was a<div>proper rubber pencil eraser. (I worked for DEC for several</div><div>years and a wonky FlipChip usually got straight with that</div><div>treatment). Did wonders (it still does for me mind the grounding</div><div>though) and brings a lot of "bad" devices back to life.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:43 AM Roger Jane via chirp_users <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">It’s refreshing that that still works - used to do that with a BBC Micro in the 80s!<div><br id="m_8689148350852416488m_-7829079384566202938lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 21 Oct 2023, at 16:14, K0LNY ?? <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Just to add to the RAM point,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the
contacts will fix a RAM issue.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="n1ea@arrl.net" href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" target="_blank">D.J.J. Ring, Jr.</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion of CHIRP</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install</div></div>
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<div>Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit
processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running
Windows 10 Home version 22H2. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and
he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the
terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never
installed. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of
Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in
it. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps
will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with
RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be
RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the
Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had no
more issues with installation errors. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and
suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the
latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to
what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>73 </div>
<div>DR </div>
<div>N1EA </div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From:
<strong class="gmail_sendername">Gene</strong> <span><<a href="mailto:jedi1.gh@gmail.com" target="_blank">jedi1.gh@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Fri,
Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM<br>Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not
install<br>To: Dan Smith via chirp_users <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br></div><br><br>
<div id="m_8689148350852416488m_-7829079384566202938m_-2081985043528053381__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Sitka Small";color:rgb(0,0,0);text-align:left" dir="ltr">I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is
needed. <br>
<div></div>
<blockquote style="border-width:1px;margin-top:20px;padding-left:10px;margin-left:0px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:initial" type="cite">
<p style="margin-top:10px;color:rgb(170,170,170)">On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J.
Ring, Jr. <<a href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">n1ea@arrl.net</a>> wrote:</p>
<div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">No, Marc, it's not
necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when he responds he
has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">I've asked him several times,
he will get the emails eventually.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">He needs to tell us the
Windows System type.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Gene, this page tells
you how to find your System type: <a href="https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Or shortcut key is the
Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the third key to the right of
F12 on standard keyboard.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Copy the Device
Specifications - there is a button to do this.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Mine is:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Device name
DESKTOP-G62MJMS<br>Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz 2.00
GHz<br>Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)<br>Device ID
AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031<br>Product ID
00355-60787-89786-AAOEM<br>System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based
processor<br>Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this
display<br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">There's also a button for
Windows Specifications. Mine is: </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Edition Windows 11
Pro<br>Version 22H2<br>Installed on 5/17/2023<br>OS build
22621.2428<br>Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack
1000.22674.1000.0<br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">Send them back to the list
please.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">73</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">DR</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt">N1EA</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:10pt"><br></div></div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc <<a href="mailto:marcptramontana@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">marcptramontana@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer
should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is
having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.<br></div>
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<div>Marc<br></div></div><br>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn
G8IFF/W8IFF <<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">It's
not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS
version.<br><br>> On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users
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<br>> <br>> Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit
then warn the user, politely 🙂, that it can’t continue and why when it
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