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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>LOL,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I should have written, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>the lack of experience with flatpack.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I couldn't get flatpack to work at all, hence no
Chirp.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But when using Chirp in Linux, everything works as
expected with the screenreader and the keyboard interaction.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But in windows, even it is better than it used to
be, since Chirp went Python3, it still has some issues, like not reading the
cells with the PC cursor, if you want to access a cell in the memory page, you
have to find it with the Jaws cursor, and route the PC cursor to
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Same with the various things in the settings
window.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But at least now we can access the pull-down menus
and they read real-time, and the issue with the warning thing popping up on
every model you cursor over is the only problem in the menus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But I'm not optimistic these things will be
addressed, since most Chirp users are sighted and don't use just the
keyboard.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=n1ea@arrl.net href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net">D.J.J. Ring, Jr.</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">Discussion of CHIRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:11 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Using The Keyboard On Radio
List</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>People should write clearly so later people can figure out what they
meant.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"Chirp has always been a better experience with a screenreader in Linux,
excluding the flatpack era." </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Can you be clearer about this? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Are you saying that when CHIRP is installed with flatpack the screen reader
works poorly or that it doesn't work at all? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Rate the screen reader performance under Windows and specify the screen
reader used. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Rate the screen reader performance under LINUX before flatpack and specify
the screen reader used. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Rate the screen reader performance under LINUX after flatpack and specify
the screen reader used. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>David </DIV>
<DIV>N1EA </DIV></DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 1:59 AM K0LNY
<glenn@ervin.email> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi W Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>True enough.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I should have mentioned that I experience this in
Windows.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Chirp has always been a better experience with a
screenreader in Linux, excluding the flatpack era.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=ac0hy@wpmills.com
href="mailto:ac0hy@wpmills.com" rel=noreferrer target=_blank>W Paul Mills</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 25, 2023 12:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Using The Keyboard On Radio
List</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Well, it turns out to be the difference between linux and Windows. Works
fine in linux.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On 7/24/23 23:54, K0LNY wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi W Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The space action didn't help with this
issue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=ac0hy@wpmills.com
href="mailto:ac0hy@wpmills.com" rel=noreferrer target=_blank>W Paul
Mills</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" rel=noreferrer
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 24, 2023 9:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Using The Keyboard On Radio
List</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>After you tab to the model list, hit the space bar or the enter key
before you arrow up or down. You will like it.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On 7/24/23 10:19, K0LNY wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hey Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm sure most folks here use Chirp with the
computer's mouse or touchpad, but there is an annoying thing with the
keyboard, and I'm hoping those who develop Chirp might be able to address
this, and I wonder if it is annoying to others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I wouldn't call it a bug, because I'm
guessing most users haven't experienced it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But in the radio model list, when I'm down
arrowing to find my model, a dialog pops for every model, and
reads:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Experimental driver<BR>Tested and mostly
works, but may give you issues<BR>when using lesser common radio
variants.<BR>Proceed at your own risk, and let us know about issues!<BR>Do
not prompt again for Yaesu FT-25R<BR>OK </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>* So this dialog is okay, but in prior
Chirps, it only popped up once you selected your model and clicked
okay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm guessing that most people typically just
roll their pointer to the model and then get that message just one
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But when your model is 10 models down the
list, it is quite annoying to have to uncheck the box and then
okay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Can this dialog be moved to after the okay is
clicked on a model, like it was before?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What do others think?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>A man with a clock always knows what time it
is.<BR>A man with two clocks is never sure.<BR>-- A derivative of Segal's
law</FONT></DIV><BR>
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