<div dir="ltr">I would expect people to make an effort to find out what may have already been asked & answered.<div>Searching an archive on ones computer is much easier than it used to be when one needed to search through a library of books to find an answer.</div><div><br></div><div>Come on people, help yourselves to readily available resources instead of depending upon others to spend their time answering an unnecessary question (and potentially doing the research you could have done for yourself).</div><div><br></div><div>Your own research can give you the answer much more quickly.</div><div>If you do the research and still do not find the answer then say so and no one will feel put upon. Most of us have other things to do besides answering questions that have already been answered.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jeff</div><div>KI7GJG</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:10 PM <<a href="mailto:pizzi.joe@gmail.com">pizzi.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">How does one (easily) search the archives for a question?<br>
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Surely, you don't expect people to download the archive files and grep them?<br>
Nor, I hope, do you expect someone to open each month's archive to see if<br>
any of the threads or subjects match the question?<br>
<br>
Joe Pizzi<br>
KI5LST<br>
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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Windows 11<br>
<br>
It surprises me, although it shouldn't, the number of people who ask the<br>
same question that's been asked and answered numerous times and is in the<br>
group archives, but then it's easier to be lazy and ask it again than do<br>
your own research and look to see if someone in the past has had the same<br>
question answered.<br>
<br>
> On 05/04/2023 20:39 GMT Al Jones <<a href="mailto:al@aljones.us" target="_blank">al@aljones.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Nigel, et al, personally it gets to be insulting to me (and others, <br>
> probably) when you all come back with "Get a real FTDI" chip. I've been <br>
> around ham radio since I was a teen (more as a SWL) but when I bought my <br>
> first cable it was, of course, a counterfeit chip and I needed to <br>
> install the older Prolific driver ... I didn't find out anything about <br>
> the chips and the drivers till Windows did an update and wiped out the <br>
> driver loaded by the company software.<br>
> I'd guess that most of the people who are asking "Why doesn't this <br>
> work?" already have spent money on a cable and are only now finding that <br>
> things aren't as straightforward as it should be ... if they'd bought <br>
> the right cable in the fist place. It's a lot more pleasant experience <br>
> to help them solve their problems rather than infer they didn't do their <br>
> homework before they even knew there was a problem.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> To "Dave B" <<a href="mailto:g8kbvdave@googlemail.com" target="_blank">g8kbvdave@googlemail.com</a>>; "Dave B via chirp_users" <br>
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> Date 4/5/2023 15:18:42<br>
> Subject Re: [chirp_users] Windows 11<br>
> <br>
> >You don't need to look else where.<br>
> >Buy direct from the FTDI website.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> On 05/04/2023 19:26 GMT Dave B via chirp_users<br>
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> >><br>
> >...<br>
> >><br>
> >> Buy a proper "Genuine" FTDI based cable. No more problems after that.<br>
> >><br>
> >> If your supplier/seller cannot guarantee a genuine FTDI based product,<br>
> >> look elsewhere. (Or build the cable assembly yourself.)<br>
> ><br>
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