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<p>So that you are not logged in as root and are doing root-level stuff explicitly. Just good security practices.</p>
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<p id="reply-intro">On 2023-01-04 07:31, Al Jones wrote:</p>
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<div>Why do all you linux people run sudo ops, wouldn't it be better to just run the real thing??<br /><br /></div>
<div>(( I really know what it stands for but this thread is long enough now to handle one wise comment, no? ))</div>
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<div>Date Wed 1 4 23 08:49:31</div>
<div>Subject Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div>
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<div>To get it up and running, I had to do the following.</div>
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<div>Downloaded source package and unpacked</div>
<div>Ran 'sudo python setup.py install' in the chirp directory.</div>
<div>Ran 'sudo dnf install python3-wxpython4'</div>
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<div>I have run the application and downloaded from the radio successfully.</div>
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<div>73, N0EYE, Matt</div>
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<div>When I installed chirp-next, it showed up as 'chirp' not 'chirpw' and was located at '/usr/local/bin/chirp' </div>
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<div>On 1/4/23 00:18, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">When I run that command, I get errors, no Chirp. </span></div>
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<p>Even though I didn't get chirp running from the command line, I was able to run it with python3 chirpwx.py while in the source folder. Here's what I found:</p>
<p>Orca is reading menus, and will allow you to open and save files</p>
<p>After opening a known good radio image, Orca announced to me that the memories page had focus, but I was still unable to arrow around and read the various memory values. I was able to export the image to a .csv file, so a good image it definitely was.</p>
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<div>That's all I have from the short tinkering I did. Good luck team in 2023.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>On 1/3/23 14:31, David Boucha wrote:</div>
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<div>These are the steps I took to install Chirp manually on Ubuntu 22.04</div>
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<div>Steps to install Chirp manually on Linux. <br /> <br />1. Make sure you have at least Python 3.7 installed. <br /> A. Type "python" in a command line terminal. <br /> B. Some Linux distros require using "python3". If your distro requires this, please type "python3" anywhere in this document that you see "python" <br />2. run "pip --version" to see what python version pip is. You may need to run "pip3" if your distro requires you also use "python3". <br /> <br />3. Open a browser and navigate to <a href="https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp</a> <br />4. Click on the green "<> Code" button dropdown. <br />5. Click on "Download Zip" and save the zip file to your preferred location. <br />6. My file saved as "chirp-master.zip" <br />7. Unzip the zip file with the following command: <br /> A. "unzip chirp-master.zip" <br />8. Change into the resulting chirp-master directory: <br /> A. "cd chirp-master" <br />9. Pip install Chirp's dependencies: <br /> A. "pip install -r requirements.txt <br />10. Install Chirp: <br /> A. "python setup.py install" <br />11. Now you can start chirp by running "chirp" from the command line. <br /> <br /> <br />Note: On ubuntu 22.04 you might have to install "python3-wxgtk4.0" before the pip install step. </div>
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<div>Let me know if this helps. Orca was able to read me the menu items while I moved around chirp with my arrow keys.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Hi David,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Actually, a string of stuff that can be written into a bash script would be great, with the preclusion that the user install git first. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">So yes, it would be appreciated. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Glenn</span></div>
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<div>I just tested running chirp directly from the git repository by installing the dependencies with "pip3 install -r requirements", then running "chirpwx.py" and orca was able to read everything to me. I'm not an expert on orca. I think the navigation worked, but it did seem to work fine.</div>
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<div>Let me know if you'd like help running from the git repository.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 8:55 AM K0LNY_Glenn <a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" rel="noreferrer"><glenn@ervin.email></a> wrote:</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Well for accessibility, that is for the visually impaired to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and an old Chirp that will install into it. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Personally, I've not ever gotten a package of Chirp to be able to install right from downloading a Linux package, I rely on using apt to get Chirp from a repository. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">I had to follow step by step instruction to get Chirp to install into a newer Linux with Python 3, and I found after all that that flatpak breaks accessibility. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">So rather than putting someone through all that, I'm sure there are folks who would gladly download a big file that they can rite to a drive and boot it up and have Chirp working. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Glenn</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have CHIRP pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line command would install CHIRP, wouldn't it?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is measured in gigabytes. <br /><br />
<div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div>
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<div>Be aware of Ubuntu's IPRights Policy, particularity concerning redistribution:</div>
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<div>Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM image of it can be considered 'modification'.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, either for accessibility, or because of operating system, I see nothing wrong with it. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp on it, if I can find a drive with just that on it, and give a link to anyone who wants it. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with several operating systems on it, so I'll need to go through a bunch of them to find one that has Ubuntu 18 and Chirp. </span></div>
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<div>I can't imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no longer supported software. I know I wouldn't want to be. There's a reason the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up. </div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu with the old Chirp already installed, so that can be implemented. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a thumb drive with Chirp on it, but I don't know if that can be made into a VM. </span></div>
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