<div dir="ltr">That took me a moment. Nice :-)<div><br></div><div>Denis, N2TI</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:27 AM Al Jones &lt;<a href="mailto:al@aljones.us">al@aljones.us</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8838010519050927870"><div><div>Why do all you linux people run sudo ops, wouldn&#39;t it be better to just run the real thing??<br><br></div>
<div>(( I really know what it stands for but this thread is long enough now to handle one wise comment, no? ))</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From &quot;Matt Foster&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wedgef5@gmail.com" target="_blank">wedgef5@gmail.com</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To &quot;Discussion of CHIRP&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>&gt;</div>
<div>Date Wed 1 4 23 08:49:31</div>
<div>Subject Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div><div><br></div>
<div id="m_-8838010519050927870xbee757a8289b496"><blockquote cite="http://CA+yzjrq3wgu4=DsbH7quV7nT_YSmjovXiK9pjMyoXb=kJcoW1Q@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class="m_-8838010519050927870cite2">
<div dir="ltr">Testing here on a Fedora 37 VM with a Yaesu FT-60R. So far, so good.<div><br></div><div>To get it up and running, I had to do the following.</div><div><br></div><div>Downloaded source package and unpacked</div><div>Ran &#39;sudo python setup.py install&#39; in the chirp directory.</div><div>Ran &#39;sudo dnf install python3-wxpython4&#39;</div><div><br></div><div>I have run the application and downloaded from the radio successfully.</div><div><br></div><div>73, N0EYE, Matt</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 1:51 AM W Paul Mills &lt;<a href="mailto:ac0hy@wpmills.com" target="_blank">ac0hy@wpmills.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <div>When I installed chirp-next, it showed
      up as &#39;chirp&#39; not  &#39;chirpw&#39; and was located at
      &#39;/usr/local/bin/chirp&#39;
<br>
    </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>On 1/4/23 00:18, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" class="m_-8838010519050927870cite">
      
      
      
      
      
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">When I run that command, I get
          errors, no Chirp.
</font></div>
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
      <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
        <div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b>
          <a title="guyster@bex.net" href="mailto:guyster@bex.net" target="_blank">Guy Schlosser</a> </div>
        <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion of CHIRP</a> ; <a title="boucha@gmail.com" href="mailto:boucha@gmail.com" target="_blank">David Boucha</a> </div>
        <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 10:01 PM</div>
        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <p>Even though I didn&#39;t get chirp running from the command line, I
        was able to run it with python3 chirpwx.py while in the source
        folder. Here&#39;s what I found:
</p>
      <p>Orca is reading menus, and will allow you to open and save
        files
</p>
      <p>After opening a known good radio image, Orca announced to me
        that the memories page had focus, but I was still unable to
        arrow around and read the various memory values. I was able to
        export the image to a .csv file, so a good image it definitely
        was.
</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <div>That&#39;s all I have from the short
        tinkering I did. Good luck team in 2023.
</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks,</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Guy</div>
      <div>On 1/3/23 14:31, David Boucha wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite" class="m_-8838010519050927870cite">
        <div dir="ltr">Hi Glenn,
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>These are the steps I took to install Chirp manually on
            Ubuntu 22.04
</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Steps to install Chirp manually on Linux.                
                                  <br>
                                                                       
                                <br>
            1. Make sure you have at least Python 3.7 installed.        
                               <br>
                 A. Type &quot;python&quot; in a command line terminal.          
                                <br>
                 B. Some Linux distros require using &quot;python3&quot;. If your
            distro requires this, please type &quot;python3&quot; anywhere in this
            document that you see &quot;python&quot;
<br>
            2. run &quot;pip --version&quot; to see what python version pip is.
            You may need to run &quot;pip3&quot; if your distro requires you also
            use &quot;python3&quot;.
<br>
                                                                       
                                <br>
            3. Open a browser and navigate to <a href="https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp" target="_blank">https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp</a>
                           <br>
            4. Click on the green &quot;&lt;&gt; Code&quot; button dropdown.      
                                     <br>
            5. Click on &quot;Download Zip&quot; and save the zip file to your
            preferred location.    
<br>
            6. My file saved as &quot;chirp-master.zip&quot;                      
                               <br>
            7. Unzip the zip file with the following command:          
                                <br>
                A. &quot;unzip chirp-master.zip&quot;                            
                                <br>
            8. Change into the resulting chirp-master directory:        
                               <br>
                A. &quot;cd chirp-master&quot;                                    
                               <br>
            9. Pip install Chirp&#39;s dependencies:                        
                               <br>
                A. &quot;pip install -r requirements.txt                    
                                <br>
            10. Install Chirp:                                          
                               <br>
                A. &quot;python setup.py install&quot;                            
                               <br>
            11. Now you can start chirp by running &quot;chirp&quot; from the
            command line.           
<br>
                                                                       
                                <br>
                                                                       
                                <br>
            Note: On ubuntu 22.04 you might have to install
            &quot;python3-wxgtk4.0&quot; before the pip install step.
<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Let me know if this helps. Orca was able to read me the
            menu items while I moved around chirp with my arrow keys.
</div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:13
            AM K0LNY_Glenn 
<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank">&lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt;</a>
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">
            <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
              <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi David,</font></div>
              <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Actually, a string of
                  stuff that can be written into a bash script would be
                  great, with the preclusion that the user install git
                  first.
</font></div>
              <div><font size="2" face="Arial">So yes, it would be
                  appreciated.
</font></div>
              <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
              <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
                <div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="boucha@gmail.com" href="mailto:boucha@gmail.com" target="_blank">David Boucha</a> </div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion of
                    CHIRP
</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 11:04 AM</div>
                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next
                  build
</div>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">Hey Glenn,
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I just tested running chirp directly from the git
                  repository by installing the dependencies with &quot;pip3
                  install -r requirements&quot;, then running &quot;chirpwx.py&quot;
                  and orca was able to read everything to me. I&#39;m not an
                  expert on orca. I think the navigation worked, but it
                  did seem to work fine.
</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Let me know if you&#39;d like help running from the git
                  repository.
</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Best,</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Dave</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at
                  8:55 AM K0LNY_Glenn 
<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank">&lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt;</a>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">
                  <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
                    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well for
                        accessibility, that is for the visually impaired
                        to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using
                        Python 2X, and an old Chirp that will install
                        into it.
</font></div>
                    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Personally, I&#39;ve
                        not ever gotten a package of Chirp to be able to
                        install right from downloading a Linux package,
                        I rely on using apt to get Chirp from a
                        repository.
</font></div>
                    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I had to follow
                        step by step instruction to get Chirp to install
                        into a newer Linux with Python 3, and I found
                        after all that that flatpak breaks
                        accessibility.
</font></div>
                    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">So rather than
                        putting someone through all that, I&#39;m sure there
                        are folks who would gladly download a big file
                        that they can rite to a drive and boot it up and
                        have Chirp working.
</font></div>
                    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
                    <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message
                      -----
                      
<div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b>
                        <a title="ken@n2vip.org" href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org" target="_blank">Ken Hansen</a> </div>
                      <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion
                          of CHIRP
</a> </div>
                      <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:00
                        AM
</div>
                      <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New
                        chirp-next build
</div>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="ltr">Shipping a complete Ubuntu
                      installation in a VM just to have CHIRP
                      pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically
                      a single line command would install CHIRP,
                      wouldn&#39;t it?
</div>
                    <div dir="ltr"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="ltr">CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI
                      install of Ubuntu is measured in gigabytes.
<br>
                      <br>
                      <div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><br>
                        <blockquote type="cite" class="m_-8838010519050927870cite">On Jan 3, 2023, at
                          06:23, Scott Lopez &lt;
<a href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottjl@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:
<br>
                          <br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite" class="m_-8838010519050927870cite">
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>Be aware of Ubuntu&#39;s IPRights Policy,
                              particularity concerning redistribution:
</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><a href="https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy" target="_blank">https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy</a></div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Yes, installing a 3rd party package
                              (Chirp) and distributing a VM image of it
                              can be considered &#39;modification&#39;.
</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon,
                                Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn 
<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank">&lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt;</a>
                                wrote:<br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">
                                <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
                                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well
                                      if it is the only someone can use
                                      Chirp, either for accessibility,
                                      or because of operating system, I
                                      see nothing wrong with it.
</font></div>
                                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I may
                                      DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and
                                      Chirp on it, if I can find a drive
                                      with just that on it, and give a
                                      link to anyone who wants it.
</font></div>
                                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Some
                                      of my thumb drives are multiboot,
                                      with several operating systems on
                                      it, so I&#39;ll need to go through a
                                      bunch of them to find one that has
                                      Ubuntu 18 and Chirp.
</font></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div style="font:10pt arial">-----
                                    Original Message -----
                                    
<div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="scottjl@gmail.com" href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank">Scott
                                        Lopez
</a> </div>
                                    <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion
                                        of CHIRP
</a> </div>
                                    <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January
                                      02, 2023 7:22 PM
</div>
                                    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                      [chirp_users] New chirp-next build
</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div>I can&#39;t imagine anyone here
                                      wants to be responsible for
                                      setting up, distributing, and
                                      supporting a VM image of what is
                                      now outdated and no longer
                                      supported software. I know I
                                      wouldn&#39;t want to be. There&#39;s a
                                      reason the software is outdated,
                                      the best solution is to keep up.
<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                                      <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On
                                        Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM
                                        K0LNY_Glenn &lt;
<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank">glenn@ervin.email</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:
<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">
                                        <div>
                                          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" lang="EN-US">
                                            <div><font size="2" face="Arial">What would
                                                be handy is to have a VM
                                                of Ubuntu with the old
                                                Chirp already installed,
                                                so that can be
                                                implemented.
</font></div>
                                            <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am sure I
                                                have an old Ubuntu Live
                                                on a thumb drive with
                                                Chirp on it, but I don&#39;t
                                                know if that can be made
                                                into a VM.
</font></div>
                                            <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
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