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Ken, Thank you for your response. Very nicely suggested. I will look
into getting another machine or as some others have suggested, to
install Linux or Ubuntu in a VM. I have to say you, and most people
have given good and friendly advice and I thank all of you for this.
Although I don't use Chirp often, it has been a nice program to go
to when i needed it and when helping others get their HTs
programmed.<br>
73,<br>
Dean - KC9REN<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/2/2023 10:21 AM, Ken Hansen wrote:<br>
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<div>Your Win7 license/COA allows you to upgrade your Win7 machine
to Win10 for free. If your machine is incapable of running
Win10, it is likely quite old and a hardware upgrade may be in
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<div>Windows 7 was released Oct. 2009, and was EOL on Jan 2020.
Win 10 was released in July of 2015 and will go EOL Oct 2025. If
your computer shipped with Win7, it is easily 7 years old, and
lacking on-going support/security patches, is a security problem
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<div>You can certainly choose to continue running Win 7 if you
like, but if that machine is connected to the internet, the
security risks are high, and the number of programs that have
compatibility issues will only increase over time.</div>
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<div>If you choose not to upgrade your current system, it is your
choice to remain in an environment that is unsupported by CHIRP
for reasons that are based on technical realities, not the
capricious whim of the developers that can be influenced by the
dangling of withheld donations.</div>
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<div>The Windows 10 upgrade can be done in-place, assuming your
Win7 machine has sufficient free space on the hard drive. You
may want to swap a solid state drive (SSD) for your current
spinning hard drive (HDD) - Win10 has been known to set the
machine to "thrashing" when running off a HDD, but not when run
off an SSD, and an SSD will make your old Win7 system more
responsive no matter which version of Windows you run.</div>
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<div>I'm happy to help if want some pointers on upgrading your
Win7 system to Win10 - my suggestion would be to get an SSD,
transfer your Win7 HDD contents to the SSD, remove the Win7 HDD
as a backup, then, once you are ready to upgrade, ask windows
for an upgrade (several methods possible) and see how it goes -
you can always fall back to your Win7 HDD.</div>
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<div>There are numerous free programs to transfer your Win7 system
HD contents to a new drive, I quite like the free version of
Macrium:</div>
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<div>Good luck, take care,</div>
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Tony, you are correct although just because Microsoft
doesn't support Windows 7 doesn't mean a program can't still
work on Windows 7. there are a lot of hams I know that are
still using Win-7 like I am and it runs very stable for all
my applications except Chirp-Next. So now I have to use the
older version of Chirp and am forced to get a newer machine
with Windows 10 or 11 just to use the Next version of Chirp.
Then I have to reinstall all the other programs onto the new
machine. We hams are cheap and/or live on a fixed income.
Look at the majority of hams. I do like the fact there is a
new version of Chirp, I just wish I could use it on my
machine. i was even tempted to send in a donation until I
found out I couldn't use it. Like I said, I do wish it would
have been more apparent that the new next version of Chirp
will not run on Win-7.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">To be more accurate, it is made for Linux,
Mac OS-X and Windows.<br>
Microsoft no longer support Windows 7.</div>
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would be good to make it clear this "next" version of
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Chirp is made for Windows 10 and doesn't work on
Windows 7.<br>
Dean - KC9REN<br>
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> On 2023-01-02 02:09:-0800, you wrote:<br>
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