<div dir="auto"><div>Yeah, try running &quot;sudo apt install python3-pip&quot;<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 8:30 PM K0LNY_Glenn &lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>





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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi David,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well I installed python, and it says it&#39;s 
3.9.2</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I&#39;ve tried pip --version and pip3 --version and I 
get an error.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I tried it both with python3 running and 
without.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I&#39;ll get the zip, but I will need pip first I&#39;m 
sure.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Is that something to also be 
installed?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="boucha@gmail.com" href="mailto:boucha@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">David Boucha</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Discussion of CHIRP</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 1:10 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Glenn,
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font><br></div>
<div>These are the steps I took to install Chirp manually on Ubuntu 22.04</div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font><br></div>
<div>Steps to install Chirp manually on Linux.         
                      
        <br>              
                      
                      
                      
<br>1. Make sure you have at least Python 3.7 installed.       
                    
 <br>     A. Type &quot;python&quot; in a command line terminal. 
                      
        <br>     B. Some Linux distros 
require using &quot;python3&quot;. If your distro requires this, please type &quot;python3&quot; 
anywhere in this document that you see &quot;python&quot;<br>2. run &quot;pip --version&quot; to see 
what python version pip is. You may need to run &quot;pip3&quot; if your distro requires 
you also use &quot;python3&quot;.<br>              
                      
                      
                      
<br>3. Open a browser and navigate to <a href="https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp</a>   
             <br>4. Click on the green 
&quot;&lt;&gt; Code&quot; button dropdown.             
                   <br>5. 
Click on &quot;Download Zip&quot; and save the zip file to your preferred location.   
 <br>6. My file saved as &quot;chirp-master.zip&quot;         
                      
           <br>7. Unzip the zip file with the 
following command:                 
              <br>    A. &quot;unzip 
chirp-master.zip&quot;                   
                      
        <br>8. Change into the resulting chirp-master 
directory:                     
       <br>    A. &quot;cd chirp-master&quot;     
                      
                      
       <br>9. Pip install Chirp&#39;s dependencies:   
                      
                   <br>  
  A. &quot;pip install -r requirements.txt           
                      
        <br>10. Install Chirp:         
                      
                      
         <br>    A. &quot;python setup.py install&quot; 
                      
                      
   <br>11. Now you can start chirp by running &quot;chirp&quot; from the command 
line.           <br>          
                      
                      
                      
    <br>                  
                      
                      
                  <br>Note: On 
ubuntu 22.04 you might have to install &quot;python3-wxgtk4.0&quot; before the pip install 
step.<br></div>
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<div><br></div>
<div>Let me know if this helps. Orca was able to read me the menu items while I 
moved around chirp with my arrow keys.</div></div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:13 AM K0LNY_Glenn 
&lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><u></u>
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  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi David,</font></div>
  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Actually, a string of stuff that can be written 
  into a bash script would be great, with the preclusion that the user install 
  git first.</font></div>
  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">So yes, it would be appreciated.</font></div>
  <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
  <div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <div style="BACKGROUND:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="boucha@gmail.com" href="mailto:boucha@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">David 
  Boucha</a> </div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Discussion of 
  CHIRP</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 11:04 AM</div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div dir="ltr">Hey Glenn, 
  <div><br></div>
  <div>I just tested running chirp directly from the git repository by 
  installing the dependencies with &quot;pip3 install -r requirements&quot;, then running 
  &quot;chirpwx.py&quot; and orca was able to read everything to me. I&#39;m not an expert on 
  orca. I think the navigation worked, but it did seem to work fine.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Let me know if you&#39;d like help running from the git repository.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Best,</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Dave</div></div><br>
  <div class="gmail_quote">
  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 8:55 AM K0LNY_Glenn 
  &lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div>
  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><u></u>
    <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well for accessibility, that is for the 
    visually impaired to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and 
    an old Chirp that will install into it.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Personally, I&#39;ve not ever gotten a package of 
    Chirp to be able to install right from downloading a Linux package, I rely 
    on using apt to get Chirp from a repository.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I had to follow step by step instruction to get 
    Chirp to install into a newer Linux with Python 3, and I found after all 
    that that flatpak breaks accessibility.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">So rather than putting someone through all 
    that, I&#39;m sure there are folks who would gladly download a big file that 
    they can rite to a drive and boot it up and have Chirp working.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
    <div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
    <div style="BACKGROUND:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="ken@n2vip.org" href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ken Hansen</a> 
    </div>
    <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Discussion of 
    CHIRP</a> </div>
    <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:00 AM</div>
    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
    <div><br></div>
    <div dir="ltr">Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have 
    CHIRP pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line 
    command would install CHIRP, wouldn&#39;t it?</div>
    <div dir="ltr"><br></div>
    <div dir="ltr">CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is 
    measured in gigabytes.<br><br>
    <div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div>
    <div dir="ltr"><br>
    <blockquote type="cite">On Jan 3, 2023, at 06:23, Scott Lopez &lt;<a href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">scottjl@gmail.com</a>&gt; 
      wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr"> 
      <div dir="ltr">
      <div>Be aware of Ubuntu&#39;s IPRights Policy, particularity concerning 
      redistribution:</div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div><a href="https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy</a></div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div>Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM 
      image of it can be considered &#39;modification&#39;.</div>
      <div></div>
      <div><br></div>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
      <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn 
      &lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div>
      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><u></u>
        <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well if it is the only someone can use 
        Chirp, either for accessibility, or because of operating system, I see 
        nothing wrong with it.</font></div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and 
        Chirp on it, if I can find a drive with just that on it, and give a link 
        to anyone who wants it.</font></div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with 
        several operating systems on it, so I&#39;ll need to go through a bunch of 
        them to find one that has Ubuntu 18 and Chirp.</font></div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
        <div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
        <div style="BACKGROUND:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="scottjl@gmail.com" href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Scott Lopez</a> </div>
        <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Discussion of CHIRP</a> </div>
        <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM</div>
        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
        <div><br></div>
        <div dir="ltr">
        <div>I can&#39;t imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, 
        distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no 
        longer supported software. I know I wouldn&#39;t want to be. There&#39;s a 
        reason the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep 
        up.<br></div><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn 
        &lt;<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">glenn@ervin.email</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
          <div><u></u>
          <div lang="EN-US" bgcolor="#ffffff">
          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">What would be handy is to have a VM of 
          Ubuntu with the old Chirp already installed, so that can be 
          implemented.</font></div>
          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a 
          thumb drive with Chirp on it, but I don&#39;t know if that can be made 
          into a VM.</font></div>
          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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