<div dir="ltr">Hey Glenn,<div><br></div><div>I just tested running chirp directly from the git repository by installing the dependencies with &quot;pip3 install -r requirements&quot;, then running &quot;chirpwx.py&quot; and orca was able to read everything to me. I&#39;m not an expert on orca. I think the navigation worked, but it did seem to work fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you&#39;d like help running from the git repository.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Dave</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 8:55 AM K0LNY_Glenn &lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>





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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well for accessibility, that is for the visually 
impaired to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and an old Chirp 
that will install into it.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Personally, I&#39;ve not ever gotten a package of Chirp 
to be able to install right from downloading a Linux package, I rely on using 
apt to get Chirp from a repository.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I had to follow step by step instruction to get 
Chirp to install into a newer Linux with Python 3, and I found after all that 
that flatpak breaks accessibility.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So rather than putting someone through all that, 
I&#39;m sure there are folks who would gladly download a big file that they can rite 
to a drive and boot it up and have Chirp working.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="ken@n2vip.org" href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org" target="_blank">Ken Hansen</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion of CHIRP</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:00 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have CHIRP 
pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line command would 
install CHIRP, wouldn&#39;t it?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is measured 
in gigabytes.<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Jan 3, 2023, at 06:23, Scott Lopez &lt;<a href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottjl@gmail.com</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>
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  <div>Be aware of Ubuntu&#39;s IPRights Policy, particularity concerning 
  redistribution:</div>
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  <div><a href="https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy" target="_blank">https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy</a></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM image 
  of it can be considered &#39;modification&#39;.</div>
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  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn 
  &lt;glenn@ervin.email&gt; wrote:<br></div>
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    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, 
    either for accessibility, or because of operating system, I see nothing 
    wrong with it.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp 
    on it, if I can find a drive with just that on it, and give a link to anyone 
    who wants it.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with 
    several operating systems on it, so I&#39;ll need to go through a bunch of them 
    to find one that has Ubuntu 18 and Chirp.</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
    <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
    <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
    <div style="background:rgb(228,228,228)"><b>From:</b> <a title="scottjl@gmail.com" href="mailto:scottjl@gmail.com" target="_blank">Scott 
    Lopez</a> </div>
    <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">Discussion of 
    CHIRP</a> </div>
    <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM</div>
    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build</div></div>
    <div><br></div>
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    <div>I can&#39;t imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, 
    distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no 
    longer supported software. I know I wouldn&#39;t want to be. There&#39;s a reason 
    the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up.<br></div><br>
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    <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn 
    &lt;<a href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" target="_blank">glenn@ervin.email</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
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      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu 
      with the old Chirp already installed, so that can be 
      implemented.</font></div>
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a 
      thumb drive with Chirp on it, but I don&#39;t know if that can be made into a 
      VM.</font></div>
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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