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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I sent a message to the Orca list asking about
Flatpak, and got this response:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>I can say for sure it isn't flatpak, I'm running cawbird on Slint,
<BR>installed using flatpak, and it's working fine.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=guyster@bex.net href="mailto:guyster@bex.net">Guy Schlosser</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">Discussion of CHIRP</A> ; <A
title=n1ea@arrl.net href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net">D.J.J. Ring, Jr.</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 02, 2022 9:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Flatpak</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>
<P>I don't believe it is. The short version is, the at-spi bus is not available
in the flatpak sandbox. I know there was an issue raised back in 2016, to try
and get this resolved. The web url for this github issue is, <A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/79">https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/79</A>.
I really hope we can get something resolved with this technology, because I know
more and more programs are using it, besides Chirp. On to work I go, but
73 and have a great day.</P>
<P> <BR></P>
<P>Guy KE8JYP</P>
<P><BR></P>
<P><BR></P>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 6/2/22 07:48, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:<BR></DIV>
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cite=mid:CADO5RbhjfM8fcShN9X0KRiR2K9zqDV2t9jnFswEKoPBm1LKd8Q@mail.gmail.com
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<DIV>Does anyone know if CHIRP flatpak is accessible to a screen reader like
ORCA?
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>DR </DIV>
<DIV>N1EA </DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>
<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 12:49 AM K0LNY_Glenn <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email"><glenn@ervin.email></A> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Cinead,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I did that, and after running that command, it
came back with an error like no tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>When I tried to run Chirp, it read something
like </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>gtk error</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>A few lines about gtk, but I could not copy
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My screenreader could not review
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For DJ's suggestion:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Arial>Does CHIRP run if you issue this command
as regular user in a terminal:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>flatpak run com.danplanet.chirp</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Seemed like it did, but it only
read</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Chirp As Superuser</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and it seemed like the window for chirp was
there, or an error window for chirp, but it did not function.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=cinaed.simson@gmail.com href="mailto:cinaed.simson@gmail.com"
rel=noreferrer target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">Cinaed Simson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
rel=noreferrer target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 31, 2022 11:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Flatpak</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P>Hi Glen - open a terminal,</P>
<P> cd /var/log
<BR></P>
<P> sudo tail -f messages<BR></P>
<DIV>then try to launch chirp. The error messages should appear in the
terminal window. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>cut and paste the error messages into this message and send it back to
chirp mailing list in this message.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>-- Cinaed</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On 5/31/22 20:46, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I just checked, it's in Ubuntu
21.10.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=glenn@ervin.email
href="mailto:glenn@ervin.email" rel=noreferrer target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">K0LNY_Glenn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">Discussion of CHIRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 31, 2022 9:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Flatpak</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I followed the below to the T, and now Chirp
is in accessories, using Ubuntu 20 something, but it does not
launch.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I enter on it but nothing happens, but the
panels of programs go away, like the enter on Chirp did
something.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=n1ea@arrl.net
href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" rel=noreferrer target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">D.J.J. Ring, Jr.</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">Discussion of CHIRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 27, 2022 7:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Flatpak</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">John,</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">Here's how to install
flatpak. $ just means your using the regular user terminal, </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">if you typed "sudo su"
you'd be at the root terminal which is #.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">Download the latest
CHIRP flatpak from here:<BR><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/</A></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">As of this moment the
current version is <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/chirp-daily-20220515.flatpak"
rel=noreferrer target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/chirp-daily-20220515.flatpak</A><BR><BR>Rest
of the work is from the terminal.<BR><BR>First, install Flatpak:<BR><BR>$
sudo apt install flatpak<BR><BR>The other howtos seem to have missed this
next step. You need to use<BR>flatpak to install the “freedesktop”
platform. First update flatpak<BR>and your paths.<BR><BR>$ flatpak update
-v<BR><BR>This will give you a warning about paths, something
like:<BR><BR>Note that the
directories<BR><BR>'/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share'<BR>'/home/[username]/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share'<BR><BR>are
not in the search path set by the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment<BR>variable,
so applications installed by Flatpak may not appear on your<BR>desktop
until the session is restarted.<BR><BR>Since we now have to log out
anyway, now might be a good time to make<BR>sure you are in the dialout
group.<BR><BR>Use the groups command to list your active groups. If
the group<BR>“dialout” does not appear, add yourself to the group
(replace<BR>[username] with your username):<BR><BR>$ sudo usermod -aG
dialout [username]<BR><BR>Now restart your session (or computer) and
return to the terminal.<BR><BR>~$ flatpak update -v<BR>Looking for
updates…<BR>Nothing to do.<BR><BR>Don’t worry about installation directory
warnings if you haven’t<BR>installed anything yet. Those will be created
later. Important is that<BR>we got rid of the path warning. Moving
on….<BR><BR>Now you need to get the Freedesktop repository
installed:<BR><BR>$ flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub<BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo</A><BR><BR>and
then install the Freedesktop Platform:<BR><BR>$ flatpak install flathub
org.freedesktop.Platform//19.08<BR><BR>This might take a while its a big
(~0.5Gb) download. Grab some coffee<BR>and make some QSO’s….. Maybe check
out my club’s website:<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://w6ek.org" rel=noreferrer target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://w6ek.org</A><BR><BR>Finally we can install
Chirp! (replace .flatpack filename with your<BR>downloaded
version)<BR><BR>$ flatpak install
Downloads/chirp-daily-20220515.flatpak<BR><BR>You’re done! You can run
chirp from your applications menu or from the<BR>command like like
this:<BR><BR>$ flatpak run com.danplanet.chirp<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">My distro has a
defective GIMP application so I used flatpak to install the app from
there, the only negative is that I cannot type "gmp" from a terminal and
have gimp run, I have to use teh menu entry.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">Try it - it's excellent
and it's the future of applications in Linux.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">73</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: small">DR</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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