<div dir="ltr">OK whatever. I will scrounge and keep my price down.<div><br></div><div>To each his own. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 9:32 PM Ken Hansen <<a href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org">ken@n2vip.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Chuck,<div><br></div><div>It seems you really want to convince me that monitors aren't expensive - I'm not sure why, since everything I've written is "+ monitor".</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, people can use their home TVs.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, older computer displays are abundant and in many cases freely available.</div><div><br></div><div>Your first post said:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span>And for the price </span><span>of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you </span><span>are off to the races..."</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>You left out PS, mouse, hdmi cable & microSD card, and adding those to a $70 RPi 400 takes you close to the $100 mark I mentioned.</span></div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 25, 2022, at 19:15, Chuck Hast <<a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com" target="_blank">kp4djt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Ken, in this case I do not have a junk box, but there is<div>an IT recycler (actually several) in town and they all</div><div>have monitors and are more than glad to part with them</div><div>for a few $$. I think if people will look around they will</div><div>find that most cities of any size will have them and a</div><div>lot of computer shops end up with a collection of mon-</div><div>itors for the which they will gladly part for a few $$. </div><div><br></div><div>Even in more rural areas, I am going to bet that more</div><div>than one shop has monitors that they would like to be</div><div>rid of, they work but perhaps are not the best for the</div><div>usual video but for a Chirp/ RPi setup they would</div><div>work great. </div><div><br></div><div>I see the IT recyclers here send them to grind up, so</div><div>many monitors and so little space. If they get a few</div><div>$$ for them that is more than they get when they are</div><div>sent to the grinder. </div><div><br></div><div>When I talk about scrounging, it is not necessarily in</div><div>my junk box, if people will look a wee bit they will find</div><div>that there are a lot of ways to keep costs down. Most</div><div>TV's have HDMI inputs now and for Chirp they work</div><div>pretty well, even small ones. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 2:45 PM Ken Hansen <<a href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org" target="_blank">ken@n2vip.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Chuck,<div><br></div><div>My $100 number started with an RPi 400, not a 'traditional' RPI.</div><div><br></div><div>RPi 400 - $70</div><div>Mouse - $7</div><div>Power adapter - $7</div><div>HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)</div><div>Name-brand MicroSD card - $7</div><div><br></div><div>That gives you $98 plus monitor, or simply get the RPi 400 'complete kit' for $100 and get a nice book also.</div><div><br></div><div>Substitute a 2 Gig RPi 4 (assuming you can find one):</div><div><br></div><div>RPi - $45</div><div>Case for RPi 4 - $5</div><div>Keyboard - $20 (I too like Logitech K400)</div><div><div>Power adapter - $7</div><div>HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI)</div><div>Name-brand MicroSD card - $7</div><div><br></div><div>That gets you to $91 plus monitor.</div><div><br></div><div>Either path takes you close to $100, esp once you add in tax, s/h, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>It's nice that you have a junk box that has all the needed items so you can 'scrounge' them, but it's disingenuous to assume everyone else has a similar junk box.</div><br><div dir="ltr">Ken, N2VIP</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 25, 2022, at 06:14, Chuck Hast <<a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com" target="_blank">kp4djt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I buy a Logitech K400 which has a touchpad on it for about $20<div>at Walmart or other places that sell them. I either use a repurposed</div><div>TV or go to the local IT recycler and get me a monitor for $5-$10.</div><div>You do not need that much SD card for Chirp so that will cost less</div><div>than $10. So far I still am not near $100. Part of being a ham is</div><div>learning to scrounge. Part of running a RPi is also learning to</div><div>scrounge. For travel I carry a RPi the keyboard and an HDMI cable</div><div>and use the HDMI port on the TV in the hotel. </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:46 AM Ken Hansen <<a href="mailto:ken@n2vip.org" target="_blank">ken@n2vip.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You need to add a screen, a mouse, a power supply, and an SD card.<br>
<br>
The screen can get pricey pretty fast - money saved by buying a smaller screen will soon be spent on a pair of 'readers' to use the smaller screen.<br>
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I'm a big fan of RPi, but people like to gloss over the actual cost of such a setup.<br>
<br>
An RPi 400 (Pi in a keyboard) setup can easily run $100 + monitor, cheaper than a new laptop, but pretty close to low-end, off-lease corporate laptops.<br>
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Ken, N2VIP<br>
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> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:00, Chuck Hast <<a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com" target="_blank">kp4djt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> And for the price<br>
> of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you<br>
> are off to the races...<br>
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