<div dir="ltr">Robert,<div>I for one am interested in what you are working on.</div><div>That is where radio is headed like it or not. As long</div><div>as we set and use 40 year old analog voice tech we</div><div>are going nowhere. On top of that all of the tech</div><div>vultures are circling ready to grab up our spectrum,</div><div>it is use it or lose it. We lost 3.5Ghz to the cellular</div><div>folks, they are trying to grab our piece of 5.8Ghz.</div><div>If you are running a digital repeater you well maybe</div><div>using one of those bands as part of your link to your</div><div>digital repeater. </div><div><br></div><div>Glad that you got the cable thing straight in order to</div><div>use Chirp to do the radio programming and wish</div><div>you luck with the digital work, we need to see more</div><div>of it in this hobby (as buzzards circle). The zombie </div><div>analog repeater count is extremely high everywhere</div><div>I travel, I think you could give a safety of life alert</div><div>on most of them and no one would hear you. At least</div><div>on most of the digital systems I know that I can get</div><div>on a talk group and get someone.  </div><div><br></div><div>Keep up the good work.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 7:35 PM Robert Withers via chirp_users &lt;<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
    
  
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    <p>Hey! It worked! I had to seat the cable one last click, as I saw
      ttyUSB0 disappear and then appear on unplugging then plugging in
      the USB and I also had ftdi_sio module installed. I seated the
      cable firmly and read the radio config. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks so much and I would say I apologize for all my encoding BS
      clogging the thread on the wrong list. Forgive me my excess. I do
      not mean to antagonize. Just searching for information to become a
      productive member of the radio community.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Kindly,<br>
      Robert<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 4/7/21 8:15 PM, W Paul Mills wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div>
        <div>Certainly looks to me like you are
          trying to make this too hard. Modules needed are loaded
          usbserial and ftdi_sio. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Simply do &quot;ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*&quot;
          before and after plugging in the cable. You should then know
          for sure which port to use. Otherwise most common cause of no
          response from radio is poor connection on the radio end. Try
          seating the cable with a little extra push. In some cases,
          cables have even needed to be trimmed a bit to properly
          seated.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I can&#39;t believe all the BS in this
          tread.</div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>On 4/7/21 9:19 AM, Robert Withers via
        chirp_users wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        
        <p>Hi Eric,</p>
        <p>Thanks for pointing me this way, although it seems I am not
          auto configuring a module for ttyUSB0. I am attaching the
          output of <br>
        </p>
        <blockquote>
          <address>lsmod | sed -n &#39;p;$=&#39; &gt; lsmod-count.txt<br>
          </address>
        </blockquote>
        <p>Where the last line is a line count. There is no changes in
          this output between having the phoe unplugged versus plugged,
          so perhaps that is an indicator that auto-config of a module
          to talk to the radio is misfiring. I dunno. Is this where
          modprobe comes in? What module name should I install for Chirp
          managing traffic over ttyUSB0?</p>
        <p>Thanks!<br>
          Robert<br>
        </p>
        <address><br>
        </address>
        <div>On 4/6/21 9:04 PM, Eric Oyen via
          chirp_users wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          
          Well,
          <div>It does depend on the GUI. There is actually a
            control panel of sorts if you use Unity or gnome as your
            desktop. Under there will be a number of “applets” for
            hardware configuration. This was the gnome project idea of
            mimicking a windows interface as well as it’s control panel.
            However, it is sometimes not as useful as being able to
            troubleshoot and add/remove devices from the CLI. One should
            look up lsmod as well as modprobe and Insmod. If things are
            working correctly, new devices will always appear in the
            /dev directory and may even have some sort of “magic number”
            associated with them. That’s an advanced idea and shouldn’t
            really be of concern for this discussion.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Now, if you use the “Lsmod” command (not
            capitalized, as my stupid autocorrect is trying to change
            it) before you plug in the usb cable, you should see a list
            of modules and what they do. After plugging in the cable
            that connects to your radio, and doing the same command, you
            should see 1 or more new modules loaded. Those modules will
            be associated with new devices that show up under /dev. Now,
            they may be listed as TTYS0 or TTYS1, etc. those would be
            your comm port entries. ttys0 should be associated with comm
            1, etc.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Now, if your system is properly configured, then
            most of this already happens in background. However, there
            may be some cases where you may have to add your user
            account to the appropriate group in order to use the device.
            There are GUI programs for this as well as some CLI
            commands. Now, some of the commands above may require that
            you use sudo and log into root. 2 items of caution here:</div>
          <div>1. If you are unsure, don’t use sudo</div>
          <div>2. Sudo is dangerous if you mess up. Only for
            advanced users! So, be very careful if you do have to use
            it.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>As always, read the associated man pages.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>DE n7zzt Eric</div>
          <div><br>
            <div><br>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div>On Apr 6, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Al Jones &lt;<a href="mailto:al@aljones.us" target="_blank">al@aljones.us</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
                <br>
                <div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">It appears as if we have a computer
                    newbie on our hands since he&#39;s looking for<span> </span><i>device
                      manager</i><span> </span>on
                    Ubuntu ... one of you good linux guys want to take
                    him in hand and walk him through?</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">I&#39;m no help, I know a bit about
                    linux but like most of the world I live in windows.</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">//al</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">------ Original Message ------</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">From: &quot;Matthew Poletiek&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:matthew.poletiek@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthew.poletiek@gmail.com</a>&gt;</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">To: &quot;Robert&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:robert.withers@pm.me" target="_blank">robert.withers@pm.me</a>&gt;;
                    &quot;Discussion of CHIRP&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>&gt;</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Sent: Tue 4 6 21 18:20:30</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Download
                    From Radio under Ubuntu 20.04 error</div>
                  <div style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div id="gmail-m_-3851874447527957251xa77206ed131647a" style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
                    <blockquote type="cite" style="margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:0px;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin-top:3px;padding-top:0px">
                      <div>Hi Robert,</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>You might want to check to
                        make sure your user has proper permissions.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>In linux, typically the
                        groups you might need for this kind of</div>
                      <div>operation include
                        `dialout`, `usb`, and while you&#39;re at it you
                        might</div>
                      <div>as well include `plugdev`.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>The command to add your
                        user to a group might be `sudo gpasswd -a
                        &lt;user&gt; group`.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Once thats finished you
                        might need to refresh your profile. Either try</div>
                      <div>opening CHIRP in a new
                        terminal, or log out and log back in.</div>
                      <div>-------------------------------------------</div>
                      <div>Matthew Poletiek</div>
                      <div>303.810.9082</div>
                      <div><a href="mailto:matthew.poletiek@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthew.poletiek@gmail.com</a></div>
                      <div><a href="http://www.matthewpoletiek.com/" target="_blank">www.matthewpoletiek.com</a></div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at
                        5:56 PM Robert via chirp_users</div>
                      <div>&lt;<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</div>
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                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Nigel,</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Here is some more info,
                          I think this is saying it is attached to
                          /dev/ttyUSB0, but same issue.</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>rabbit@ganymede:/dev$
                          dmesg | grep tty</div>
                        <div>[ 0.108543] printk:
                          console [tty0] enabled</div>
                        <div>[ 0.396294] 00:05: ttyS0
                          at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is
                          a 16550A</div>
                        <div>[ 0.418318]
                          0000:00:16.3: ttyS4 at I/O 0xf0e0 (irq = 19,
                          base_baud = 115200) is a 16550A</div>
                        <div>[ 9667.132474] usb
                          1-1.1.3: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now
                          attached to ttyUSB0</div>
                        <div>[10669.642560] ftdi_sio
                          ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now
                          disconnected from ttyUSB0</div>
                        <div>[10670.495576] usb
                          1-1.1.3: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now
                          attached to ttyUSB0</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Kindly,</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Robert</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>. .. ... ‘...^,^</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message
                          ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>On Tuesday, April 6th,
                          2021 at 5:51 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
                          &lt;<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>&gt; Usually
                          /dev/ttyUSB0 unless you already have another
                          serial device already plugged in to a USB
                          port.</div>
                        <div>&gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; Go to file manager
                          and look in /dev/ and see what appears and
                          disappears when you plun in and unplug the
                          cable.</div>
                        <div>&gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; On 06/04/2021
                          17:34 Robert via chirp_users<span> </span><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>wrote:</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; Hello,</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; Total noob,
                          here. Taking my exams on Thursday. Got my
                          TIDRADIO UV-5R and the FTDI cable. How can I
                          detect which /dev/tty is being used for the
                          FTDI connection to my radio? I tried
                          /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyUSB0 which resulted in
                          the error &#39;Radio did not respond&#39;.</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; Kindly,</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; Robert</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt; . .. ...
                          ‘...^,^</div>
                        <div>&gt; &gt;<br>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
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                  </div>
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