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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Chirp is one of the main reasons I use Linux, so
I'll stick with the latest Linux that installs and updates like
before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So if Chirp does not go to Py3, I'll probably be
using Ubuntu 18.4 for the next 10 years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jim@jimkeener.com href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com">James Keener</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">Discussion of CHIRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 27, 2020 2:34 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Ubuntu 20.04: no installation
candidate</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV>The further out of sync things become with what is "supported", the greater
the chance of security issues arising and the greater the chance that things
will become harder and harder to get working.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>At what point will we go from "install it from the python website" to "you
need to grab the old source repo and compile it, but you also need old versions
of glibc, &c which you also need to compile"? The harder something is to
install, the less likely it'll be to be used.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jim<BR></DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>
<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn
G8IFF/W8IFF <<A href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net"
target=_blank>nigel@ngunn.net</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Who cares? Why do you need updates for something that isn't broken.
</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 27 July 2020 at 15:02 James Keener <<A
href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com" target=_blank>jim@jimkeener.com</A>>
wrote: <BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr>Python 2.7 is now past EOL and will receive no further updates.
<BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:59 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
<A href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target=_blank>nigel@ngunn.net</A>>
wrote: <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>Nothing has fallen into disaray. </DIV>
<DIV>If YOU install Py2, available from the <A href="http://python.org"
rel=noopener target=_blank>python.org</A> website, and the 4 dependencies
it needs, all will work. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The proceedure for that has been published in detail both here and on
the Chirp Facebook group several times. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 27 July 2020 at 14:35 James Keener < <A
href="mailto:jim@jimkeener.com" rel=noopener
target=_blank>jim@jimkeener.com</A>> wrote: <BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV>I've been trying to get the py3 branch to work, but it seems to not
be stable, as there are still many syntax errors. Once I got chirpwx
running I tried to clone my UV5R and got "ERROR: Failed to clone: Failed
to communicate with radio: can't concat str to bytes", but there's no
stack trace or anything to tell me where the error is occurring and
"Failed to communicate with radio" occurs in many modules. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>It's sad to such a good piece of software fall into such disarray.
It's not in the default debian, ubuntu, or fedora repos anymore, nor do
the installation instructions on the website work. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Are patches welcome for the py3 branch? I can try to dig into why
the cloning is crashing. I see <A
href="https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/495" rel=noopener
target=_blank>https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/495</A> but I don't
know if I'll be duplicating work of if I can help in any other way.
<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jim <BR></DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:06 PM Angus Ainslie < <A
href="mailto:angus@akkea.ca" rel=noopener
target=_blank>angus@akkea.ca</A>> wrote: <BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Pat, <BR><BR>I've been using the py3 branch on 20.04
<BR><BR>Angus <BR><BR>On 2020-06-14 17:58, Nigel A. Gunn
G8IFF/W8IFF wrote: <BR>> I've got V2, V2.7, V3 and V3.7 installed
and not aware of any <BR>> switching mechanism. <BR>>
<BR>>> On 14 June 2020 at 19:00 Pat Anderson < <A
href="mailto:anderson5420@gmail.com" rel=noopener
target=_blank>anderson5420@gmail.com</A>> <BR>>> wrote:
<BR>>> <BR>>> I don't believe Ubuntu 20.04 automatically
chooses the correct <BR>>> pythom version, otherwise this
tutorial [1] using the <BR>>> update-alternatives command would
be superfluous. <BR>>> <BR>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:32
PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF < <BR>>> <A
href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" rel=noopener
target=_blank>nigel@ngunn.net</A>> wrote: <BR>>> <BR>>>
On 14 June 2020 at 15:57 Pat Anderson < <A
href="mailto:anderson5420@gmail.com" rel=noopener
target=_blank>anderson5420@gmail.com</A>> <BR>>> wrote:
<BR>>> <BR>>> The PPA you need to add to get CHIRP is NOT
an Ubuntu repository, <BR>>> it is Dan Smith's repository:
<BR>>> <BR>>> sudo apt-add-repository
ppa:dansmith/chirp-snapshots <BR>>> sudo apt-get update
<BR>>> sudo apt-get install chirp-daily <BR>>>
<BR>>> And point it to xenial in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
<BR>>> <BR>>> The problem you will run into is that
CHIRP requires Python 2.7, <BR>>> and Ubuntuy 20.04 only comes
with Python 3 by default. <BR>>> <BR>>> You can download
and install Python 2.7 in Ubuntu 20.04, but then <BR>>>
you need to figure out how to switch between Python versions.
<BR>>> <BR>>> Not an issue. Ubuntu will sort it
automatically. <BR>>> <BR>>> Hi <BR>>> <BR>>>
I'm trying to install Chirp on ubuntu 20.04. I've added the PPA and
<BR>>> updated my repos, but chirp is still unavailable.
<BR>>> <BR>>> I tried changing the repo from "focal main"
to "bionic main" just to <BR>>> <BR>>> see if it works,
but that results in unresolvable dependencies. <BR>>>
<BR>>> It looks like no .deb file is available for AMD64.
<BR>>> <BR>> <A
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chirp-daily/"
rel=noopener
target=_blank>http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chirp-daily/</A>
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> Any help would be appreciated.
<BR>>> Thanks. <BR>>> <BR>>>
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