<div dir="ltr">Or all acetylsalicylic acid "aspirin."</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 7:22 PM Christopher F. Beesley <<a href="mailto:chrisbees2@hotmail.com">chrisbees2@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span>Well, actually, CSV *DOES* stand for Comma Separated Variables. If anybody uses a different character to separate the variables, e.g. semi-colon, then the data file is not CSV, it is something else. Using CSV to refer to any data file that uses a specific
character to separate the variables (except Comma, of course) is on a par with referring to all vacuum cleaners as Hoovers, all analogue multimeters as Avo's, etc.</span></div>
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1. Re: jetstream jt270m on win10 (Reza Rahgozar)<br>
2. Re: CHIRP won't recognize .csv file (Dave B)<br>
3. Re: CHIRP won't recognize .csv file (Reza Rahgozar)<br>
4. Re: CHIRP won't recognize .csv file (Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:06:55 +0430<br>
From: Reza Rahgozar <<a href="mailto:reza.bahrami1980@gmail.com" target="_blank">reza.bahrami1980@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] jetstream jt270m on win10<br>
To: Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
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Use px728 programing software in PC for any Walky talky from to day I did<br>
write this app until u do use and pray for me.enjoy<br>
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 07:26 Jim Unroe <<a href="mailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com" target="_blank">rock.unroe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:07 PM Glenn At Home <<a href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net" target="_blank">glennervin@cableone.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Patricia,<br>
> > Perhaps it's the terminology you are using.<br>
> > Download is from Chirp to the radio, and Upload is to Chirp.<br>
> > You will first download to the radio, set up the database, and upload to<br>
> the radio.<br>
> ><br>
> > HTH.<br>
> > Glenn<br>
><br>
> Glenn,<br>
><br>
> I think you meant to say it right but it wound up being reversed.<br>
><br>
> An easy way to remember is to look at it as if the radio is sitting on<br>
> top of the computer. Data going from the radio towards the computer<br>
> would be down (download). Data going from the computer towards the<br>
> radio would be up (upload).<br>
><br>
> Radio<br>
> ? (on the Radio tab choose "Download From Radio Alt+D")<br>
> Computer<br>
><br>
> Radio<br>
> ? (on the Radio tab choose "Upload To Radio Alt+U")<br>
> Computer<br>
><br>
> Jim KC9HI<br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:10:09 +0100<br>
From: Dave B <<a href="mailto:g8kbvdave@googlemail.com" target="_blank">g8kbvdave@googlemail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP won't recognize .csv file<br>
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Re:-<br>
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.CSV dowsn't mean that the correct fields are included or in the correct<br>
order, or that the field headers are there, or that the fields are<br>
seperated by commas and not some other character.<br>
<br>
~ ~ ~<br>
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Er... CSV stands for "Comma Separated Variable". So, the data fields<br>
/will/be separated by a comma ','<br>
<br>
However, the nature of the field contents, and the order they are in,<br>
are not part of the CSV format, that IS application specific.<br>
<br>
Line ends can be whatever the native system expects/can handle, but<br>
again, that can cause things to fall over too.<br>
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CHIRP (and many other similar CSV aware data munchers) are a bit fragile<br>
in this respect, but to harden CHIRP against unexpected stuff, would be<br>
a major undertaking.<br>
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Some locale's too, use the comma as a decimal separator, so that can<br>
mess things up if you create such a file outside of CHIRP. 73 Dave G0WBX.<br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:12:20 +0430<br>
From: Reza Rahgozar <<a href="mailto:reza.bahrami1980@gmail.com" target="_blank">reza.bahrami1980@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP won't recognize .csv file<br>
To: Dave B <<a href="mailto:g8kbvdave@googlemail.com" target="_blank">g8kbvdave@googlemail.com</a>>, Discussion of CHIRP<br>
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Use UHF antenna for vhf or HD <a href="http://devices.is" target="_blank">devices.is</a> very better but u should<br>
disconnect and remove battry from device when u want use from powered radio<br>
because battry it's may crash motherboard so u can use with out battry and<br>
sharper.just with a better anten<br>
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On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 12:40 Dave B via chirp_users <<br>
<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Re:-<br>
><br>
> .CSV dowsn't mean that the correct fields are included or in the correct<br>
> order, or that the field headers are there, or that the fields are<br>
> seperated by commas and not some other character.<br>
><br>
> ~ ~ ~<br>
><br>
> Er... CSV stands for "Comma Separated Variable". So, the data fields<br>
> *will* be separated by a comma ','<br>
><br>
> However, the nature of the field contents, and the order they are in, are<br>
> not part of the CSV format, that IS application specific.<br>
><br>
> Line ends can be whatever the native system expects/can handle, but again,<br>
> that can cause things to fall over too.<br>
><br>
> CHIRP (and many other similar CSV aware data munchers) are a bit fragile<br>
> in this respect, but to harden CHIRP against unexpected stuff, would be a<br>
> major undertaking.<br>
><br>
> Some locale's too, use the comma as a decimal separator, so that can mess<br>
> things up if you create such a file outside of CHIRP. 73 Dave G0WBX.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:<br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:27:23 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP won't recognize .csv file<br>
To: Dave B <<a href="mailto:g8kbvdave@googlemail.com" target="_blank">g8kbvdave@googlemail.com</a>>, Discussion of CHIRP<br>
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Not necessarily. In both Libre Office and Excel you can specify what the delimit character is going to be. Doesn't have to be a comma at all. Spreadsheet will still be saves as a .CSV.<br>
<br>
<br>
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> On 30 July 2019 at 04:10 Dave B via chirp_users <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ~ ~ ~<br>
> <br>
> Er... CSV stands for "Comma Separated Variable". So, the data fields will be separated by a comma ','<br>
> <br>
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Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032<br>
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