<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail-m_107576153429169344gmail_signature"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><b> Please add device.</b></font></div><h1 id="gmail-title" class="gmail-a-size-large gmail-a-spacing-none" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px;margin:0px;font-weight:400;color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:"Amazon Ember",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:21px;line-height:1.3"><span id="gmail-productTitle" class="gmail-a-size-large" style="box-sizing:border-box;line-height:1.3">AnyTone AT-778UV and/or the Retevis RT95 to the supported device list. These two are the same radio. Thank you.</span></h1></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 1:02 PM <<a href="mailto:chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users-request@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Transmit UV5r to FRS (Chef Todd)<br>
2. Re: Transmit UV5r to FRS (Paul Duer)<br>
3. Re: Transmit UV5r to FRS (Ed Sherlock)<br>
4. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
multiple Radio Brands & Models? (Fred Erickson)<br>
5. Re: Transmit UV5r to FRS (Anthony Crespo)<br>
6. Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP capabilities (Dan Clemmensen)<br>
7. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
multiple Radio Brands & Models? (Dan Clemmensen)<br>
8. Re: Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP capabilities<br>
(Christopher Knowles)<br>
9. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
multiple Radio Brands & Models? (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.)<br>
10. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
multiple Radio Brands & Models? (Christopher Knowles)<br>
11. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
multiple Radio Brands & Models? (David Evans)<br>
12. Re: Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP capabilities<br>
(Todd J. Unkefer)<br>
13. Re: How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master File for<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:20:26 -0400<br>
From: Chef Todd <<a href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunkefer@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
To: JOCK SOUTAR <<a href="mailto:kc6iih@aol.com" target="_blank">kc6iih@aol.com</a>>, Discussion of CHIRP<br>
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A ha! Thank you.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 1:58 AM JOCK SOUTAR via chirp_users <<br>
<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The UV5R is illegal on FRS.<br>
> The reason is because they are not type accepted.<br>
> Main reason is because the antenna can be removed and replaced with other<br>
> antennas.<br>
> FRS radios have fixed antennas.<br>
><br>
> Jock<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 Glenn At Home <<br>
> <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Let's not play police here.<br>
> I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up<br>
> to 2 watts.<br>
> To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column<br>
> next to the receive column.<br>
> I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what.<br>
> Glenn<br>
><br>
> *From:* John Wuest <<a href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com" target="_blank">jhwuest@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM<br>
> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
><br>
> Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law.<br>
> That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <<a href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunkefer@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot transmit<br>
> on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on chirp?<br>
><br>
> Thanks, in advance.<br>
><br>
> Todd<br>
><br>
><br>
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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:55:16 -0700<br>
From: Ed Sherlock <<a href="mailto:k6ess.ed@gmail.com" target="_blank">k6ess.ed@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
To: Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
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C'mon, folks. Lets get real.<br>
<br>
In a life or death scenario, I'll use any radio, on any frequency, to<br>
summon aid. Afterward we can deal with legal.<br>
<br>
The medical certifications I held as a field qualified member of the<br>
Southern Arizona Rescue Association are not current, but in a life or death<br>
situation, I'll still render first aid, CPR, rescue breathing, or anything<br>
else I was recently certified to perform, regardless of my legal<br>
liability. I would not act recklessly, and would act within my training.<br>
<br>
Yes, I could be sued; no, I wouldn't be covered by the Good Samaritan law.<br>
But if I could save a limb or a life, I would provide aid. Saving a life is<br>
more important than laws.<br>
<br>
Just my personal belief. Not a reflection on SARA training or philosophy,<br>
nor on FCC regulations.<br>
<br>
<end rant><br>
<br>
Ed K6ESS<br>
Sacramento CA<br>
<br>
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein<br>
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 22:14 Paul Duer <<a href="mailto:duerhome@mail.com" target="_blank">duerhome@mail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The law is humanity's best attempt at justice, but it is fallible. It<br>
> often makes criminals of decent people. I cannot imagine any jury<br>
> convicting someone, licensed or not, of using a non-type accepted radio on<br>
> an FRS channel in the course of saving life, limb or property.<br>
><br>
> Paul Duer<br>
><br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 3:11 PM<br>
> *From:* "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <<a href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" target="_blank">n1ea@arrl.net</a>><br>
> *To:* "Discussion of CHIRP" <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
> We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.<br>
> ?95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit<br>
> any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified<br>
> under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning<br>
> the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit<br>
> is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future<br>
> any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio<br>
> frequencies.<br>
><br>
> Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be<br>
> manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS.<br>
> This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who<br>
> own such radios, like I do:<br>
> ?95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.<br>
><br>
> (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to<br>
> manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable<br>
> of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this<br>
> chapter.<br>
><br>
> FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 ? 7 and the previously GMRS only<br>
> channels of 15 ? 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 ? 14.<br>
> GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated<br>
> restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family)<br>
> is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater<br>
> frequencies.<br>
><br>
> The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated.<br>
> <a href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</a><br>
><br>
> I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to<br>
> unlicensed persons is a wise one.<br>
><br>
> 73<br>
> David N1EA<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home <<a href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net" target="_blank">glennervin@cableone.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Let's not play police here.<br>
>> I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now up<br>
>> to 2 watts.<br>
>> To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column<br>
>> next to the receive column.<br>
>> I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what.<br>
>> Glenn<br>
>><br>
>> *From:* John Wuest <<a href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com" target="_blank">jhwuest@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM<br>
>> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
>><br>
>> Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law.<br>
>> That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <<a href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunkefer@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot<br>
>>> transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on<br>
>>> chirp?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks, in advance.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Todd<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:28:22 -0800<br>
From: Fred Erickson <<a href="mailto:fredferickson@gmail.com" target="_blank">fredferickson@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master<br>
File for multiple Radio Brands & Models?<br>
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:15:05 -0400 (EDT)<br>
<a href="mailto:ka8vit@ka8vit.com" target="_blank">ka8vit@ka8vit.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Lotus 1-2-3 ???<br>
> <br>
> Whom among you remember VisiCalc ?<br>
> <br>
> 73 - Bill KA8VIT<br>
<br>
I used it every day on a Radio Shack/Tandy Model III running TRS-Dos.<br>
It worked very well.<br>
If I remember right, Lotus bought VisiCalc, then tried to sue everyone<br>
with a spreadsheet with a "look and feel" like it.<br>
<br>
> > On June 20, 2019 at 1:08 PM Amnon Zohar <<a href="mailto:amnon.zohar@gmail.com" target="_blank">amnon.zohar@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > wrote: <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > lotus 1-2-3 haha it has been ages since i have heard about it since<br>
> > exel killed everybody else <br>
<br>
I don't think Excel was better than other spreadsheets - Borland<br>
Quattro was nicer and available in text mode as well as Windows.<br>
Microsoft just bought out (or out advertised) all the<br>
competition...seemed to me.<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:37:54 -0400<br>
From: Anthony Crespo <<a href="mailto:ajcscan@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajcscan@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
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Agreed and well stated!<br>
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 1:56 AM Ed Sherlock <<a href="mailto:k6ess.ed@gmail.com" target="_blank">k6ess.ed@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> C'mon, folks. Lets get real.<br>
><br>
> In a life or death scenario, I'll use any radio, on any frequency, to<br>
> summon aid. Afterward we can deal with legal.<br>
><br>
> The medical certifications I held as a field qualified member of the<br>
> Southern Arizona Rescue Association are not current, but in a life or death<br>
> situation, I'll still render first aid, CPR, rescue breathing, or anything<br>
> else I was recently certified to perform, regardless of my legal<br>
> liability. I would not act recklessly, and would act within my training.<br>
><br>
> Yes, I could be sued; no, I wouldn't be covered by the Good Samaritan<br>
> law. But if I could save a limb or a life, I would provide aid. Saving a<br>
> life is more important than laws.<br>
><br>
> Just my personal belief. Not a reflection on SARA training or philosophy,<br>
> nor on FCC regulations.<br>
><br>
> <end rant><br>
><br>
> Ed K6ESS<br>
> Sacramento CA<br>
><br>
> Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 22:14 Paul Duer <<a href="mailto:duerhome@mail.com" target="_blank">duerhome@mail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The law is humanity's best attempt at justice, but it is fallible. It<br>
>> often makes criminals of decent people. I cannot imagine any jury<br>
>> convicting someone, licensed or not, of using a non-type accepted radio on<br>
>> an FRS channel in the course of saving life, limb or property.<br>
>><br>
>> Paul Duer<br>
>><br>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 3:11 PM<br>
>> *From:* "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <<a href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" target="_blank">n1ea@arrl.net</a>><br>
>> *To:* "Discussion of CHIRP" <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
>> We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.<br>
>> ?95.335 Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit<br>
>> any radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified<br>
>> under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning<br>
>> the import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit<br>
>> is not licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future<br>
>> any radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio<br>
>> frequencies.<br>
>><br>
>> Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be<br>
>> manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS.<br>
>> This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who<br>
>> own such radios, like I do:<br>
>> ?95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.<br>
>><br>
>> (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to<br>
>> manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment capable<br>
>> of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS) of this<br>
>> chapter.<br>
>><br>
>> FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 ? 7 and the previously GMRS only<br>
>> channels of 15 ? 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 ? 14.<br>
>> GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated<br>
>> restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family)<br>
>> is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater<br>
>> frequencies.<br>
>><br>
>> The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated.<br>
>> <a href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</a><br>
>><br>
>> I think the past practice of this group not to provide such information<br>
>> to unlicensed persons is a wise one.<br>
>><br>
>> 73<br>
>> David N1EA<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home <<a href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net" target="_blank">glennervin@cableone.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Let's not play police here.<br>
>>> I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS frequencies, now<br>
>>> up to 2 watts.<br>
>>> To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the column<br>
>>> next to the receive column.<br>
>>> I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what.<br>
>>> Glenn<br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* John Wuest <<a href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com" target="_blank">jhwuest@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM<br>
>>> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS<br>
>>><br>
>>> Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of Federal Law.<br>
>>> That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that service.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <<a href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunkefer@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I cannot<br>
>>>> transmit on those respective channels. How can I enable the transmit on<br>
>>>> chirp?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks, in advance.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Todd<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:19:25 -0700<br>
From: Dan Clemmensen <<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [chirp_users] Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP<br>
capabilities<br>
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Colleagues: Our community is interested in three different things, and I<br>
feel we need to do a better job of separating them, because different folks<br>
have different situations.<br>
<br>
Rules: we are not all US Hams. Some are not US and some are not Hams. the<br>
rules and regulations differ by jurisdiction and depend on both the<br>
hardware you are using and the licences you hold. It may (or may not) be<br>
useful to comment on the rules, but when you do, please make sure you<br>
mention which jurisdiction, licence, and hardware.<br>
<br>
Radio capabilities: Each radio has its own hardware capabilities. Some of<br>
these capabilities interact with the rules in some jurisdictions, and<br>
sometimes rules change. There is no reason we cannot discuss hardware<br>
capabilities independently of the rules, since those capabilities are still<br>
usable in some jurisdictions and/or to some users under some circumstances.<br>
<br>
CHIRP capabilities: Hey, this is the CHIRP user group! We can and should<br>
discuss any CHIRP capabilities that may be usable by some CHIRP users in<br>
some situations. It is the responsibility of each user to understand the<br>
governing rules. It is not the responsibility of the CHIRP software or the<br>
CHIRP user community to attempt to enforce these rules, especially since<br>
the rules you are trying to enforce may not be applicable to the users you<br>
are addressing. A brief sentence to note that a particular capability may<br>
violate a rule in a particular situation may be acceptable if it becomes<br>
obvious that the user might need the reminder.<br>
<br>
(Thanks for your attention. I will get down off of my soapbox now.)<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:31:07 -0700<br>
From: Dan Clemmensen <<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master<br>
File for multiple Radio Brands & Models?<br>
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Visicalc was first. It was the killer app for use of the PC in the office.<br>
<br>
There is no need to pay for a fancy spreadheet to use CHIRP. They are<br>
bloated and complicated. I am a free software fanatic, so I use Gnumeric.<br>
It has all the capabilities you need for use with CHIRP (and pretty much<br>
anything else). I'm a Linux user. Unfortunately for Windows user, new<br>
versions do not run on Windows.<br>
<br>
If I were forced to use Windows or some other strange platform, I would use<br>
Google Sheets.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 11:28 PM Fred Erickson <<a href="mailto:fredferickson@gmail.com" target="_blank">fredferickson@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:15:05 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> <a href="mailto:ka8vit@ka8vit.com" target="_blank">ka8vit@ka8vit.com</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Lotus 1-2-3 ???<br>
> ><br>
> > Whom among you remember VisiCalc ?<br>
> ><br>
> > 73 - Bill KA8VIT<br>
><br>
> I used it every day on a Radio Shack/Tandy Model III running TRS-Dos.<br>
> It worked very well.<br>
> If I remember right, Lotus bought VisiCalc, then tried to sue everyone<br>
> with a spreadsheet with a "look and feel" like it.<br>
><br>
> > > On June 20, 2019 at 1:08 PM Amnon Zohar <<a href="mailto:amnon.zohar@gmail.com" target="_blank">amnon.zohar@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > lotus 1-2-3 haha it has been ages since i have heard about it since<br>
> > > exel killed everybody else<br>
><br>
> I don't think Excel was better than other spreadsheets - Borland<br>
> Quattro was nicer and available in text mode as well as Windows.<br>
> Microsoft just bought out (or out advertised) all the<br>
> competition...seemed to me.<br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:36:07 -0400<br>
From: Christopher Knowles <<a href="mailto:cknowles@tiac.net" target="_blank">cknowles@tiac.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP<br>
capabilities<br>
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Point well taken.? We are not a group of enforcers; but we are a group <br>
of educators.? We should neither encourage nor discourage behavior.? But <br>
we should take the opportunity to educate.? Every radio operator, <br>
regardless of jurisdiction, should know the rules and make a conscious <br>
choice as to whether or not to obey them, understanding that actions <br>
have consequences.? Chris, N1CAK<br>
<br>
On 6/24/2019 10:19 AM, Dan Clemmensen wrote:<br>
> Colleagues: Our community is interested in three different things, and <br>
> I feel we need to do a better job of separating them, because <br>
> different folks have different situations.<br>
><br>
> Rules: we are not all US Hams. Some are not US and some are not Hams. <br>
> the rules and regulations differ by jurisdiction and depend on both <br>
> the hardware you are using and the licences you hold. It may (or may <br>
> not) be useful to comment on the rules, but when you do, please make <br>
> sure you mention which jurisdiction, licence, and hardware.<br>
><br>
> Radio capabilities: Each radio has its own hardware capabilities. Some <br>
> of these capabilities interact with the rules in some jurisdictions, <br>
> and sometimes rules change. There is no reason we cannot discuss <br>
> hardware capabilities independently of the rules, since those <br>
> capabilities are still usable in some jurisdictions and/or to some <br>
> users under some circumstances.<br>
><br>
> CHIRP capabilities: Hey, this is the CHIRP user group! We can and <br>
> should discuss any CHIRP capabilities that may be usable by some CHIRP <br>
> users in some situations. It is the responsibility of each user to <br>
> understand the governing rules. It is not the responsibility of the <br>
> CHIRP software or the CHIRP user community to attempt to enforce these <br>
> rules, especially since the rules you are trying to enforce may not be <br>
> applicable to the users you are addressing. A brief sentence to note <br>
> that a particular capability may violate a rule in a particular <br>
> situation may be acceptable if it becomes obvious that the user might <br>
> need the reminder.<br>
><br>
> (Thanks for your attention. I will get down off of my soapbox now.)<br>
><br>
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-- <br>
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P.O. Box 4632<br>
Vineyard Haven, MA 02568<br>
<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:37:48 -0400<br>
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <<a href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" target="_blank">n1ea@arrl.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master<br>
File for multiple Radio Brands & Models?<br>
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Good news, Dan - for Windows users that is.<br>
<br>
Gnumeric is now available for Windows 10.<br>
<a href="https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric</a><br>
<br>
If you want some software that's fast, I recommend Gnumeric and Abiword.<br>
Very small size programs but do what most people need to do, and they work<br>
very fast.<br>
<br>
Hmmm, just like CHIRP. Fast and useful.<br>
<br>
73<br>
David<br>
N1EA<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM Dan Clemmensen <<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> Visicalc was first. It was the killer app for use of the PC in the office.<br>
><br>
> There is no need to pay for a fancy spreadheet to use CHIRP. They are<br>
> bloated and complicated. I am a free software fanatic, so I use Gnumeric.<br>
> It has all the capabilities you need for use with CHIRP (and pretty much<br>
> anything else). I'm a Linux user. Unfortunately for Windows user, new<br>
> versions do not run on Windows.<br>
><br>
> If I were forced to use Windows or some other strange platform, I would<br>
> use Google Sheets.<br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:46:27 -0400<br>
From: Christopher Knowles <<a href="mailto:cknowles@tiac.net" target="_blank">cknowles@tiac.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master<br>
File for multiple Radio Brands & Models?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
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For all Windows users I would recommend Calc from LibreOffice.? It is <br>
free and part of a suite of applications more versatile than Windows <br>
Office.? Chris, N1CAK<br>
<br>
On 6/24/2019 10:37 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:<br>
> Good news, Dan - for Windows users that is.<br>
><br>
> Gnumeric is now available for Windows 10.<br>
> <a href="https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric</a><br>
><br>
> If you want some software that's fast, I recommend Gnumeric and <br>
> Abiword.? Very small size programs but do what most people need to do, <br>
> and they work very fast.<br>
><br>
> Hmmm, just like CHIRP.? Fast and useful.<br>
><br>
> 73<br>
> David<br>
> N1EA<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM Dan Clemmensen <br>
> <<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Visicalc was first. It was the killer app for use of the PC in the<br>
> office.<br>
><br>
> There is no need to pay for a fancy spreadheet to use CHIRP. They<br>
> are bloated and complicated. I am a free software fanatic, so I<br>
> use Gnumeric. It has all the capabilities you need for use with<br>
> CHIRP (and pretty much anything else). I'm a Linux user.<br>
> Unfortunately for Windows user, new versions do not run on Windows.<br>
><br>
> If I were forced to use Windows or some other strange platform, I<br>
> would use Google Sheets.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:46:16 -0700<br>
From: David Evans <<a href="mailto:kd7uch@gmail.com" target="_blank">kd7uch@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] How can I use Chirp to re-use One Master<br>
File for multiple Radio Brands & Models?<br>
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Libre Office has always worked well for me. Free also.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David,<br>
<a href="mailto:KD7UCH@gmail.com" target="_blank">KD7UCH@gmail.com</a><br>
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 07:39 D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <<a href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" target="_blank">n1ea@arrl.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Good news, Dan - for Windows users that is.<br>
><br>
> Gnumeric is now available for Windows 10.<br>
> <a href="https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://yepdownload.com/gnumeric</a><br>
><br>
> If you want some software that's fast, I recommend Gnumeric and Abiword.<br>
> Very small size programs but do what most people need to do, and they work<br>
> very fast.<br>
><br>
> Hmmm, just like CHIRP. Fast and useful.<br>
><br>
> 73<br>
> David<br>
> N1EA<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM Dan Clemmensen <<a href="mailto:danclemmensen@gmail.com" target="_blank">danclemmensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Visicalc was first. It was the killer app for use of the PC in the<br>
>> office.<br>
>><br>
>> There is no need to pay for a fancy spreadheet to use CHIRP. They are<br>
>> bloated and complicated. I am a free software fanatic, so I use Gnumeric.<br>
>> It has all the capabilities you need for use with CHIRP (and pretty much<br>
>> anything else). I'm a Linux user. Unfortunately for Windows user, new<br>
>> versions do not run on Windows.<br>
>><br>
>> If I were forced to use Windows or some other strange platform, I would<br>
>> use Google Sheets.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:57:33 -0400<br>
From: "Todd J. Unkefer" <<a href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunkefer@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP<br>
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Very good point, My situation, I work on film sets, sometimes internationally. In my particular case, I need to monitor different bands while being able to transmit on others, carrying multiple radios in Belize in the summer is not an ideal scenario. I perceived the mail list to be a last resort after endless googling, I appreciate the links people sent from google, I had already been there. Those who responded directly, I am most appreciative, the baofeng can do what I need it to, unless the FCC sends someone down to Mayan ruins in the jungle with equipment to find me and my crew, it could be an interesting prosecution.<br>
<br>
Chef Todd<br>
<br>
FoodJunkie Film Catering<br>
<br>
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From: Christopher Knowles<br>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 10:38 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rules, Radio capabilities, and CHIRP capabilities<br>
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Point well taken.? We are not a group of enforcers; but we are a group of educators.? We should neither encourage nor discourage behavior.? But we should take the opportunity to educate.? Every radio operator, regardless of jurisdiction, should know the rules and make a conscious choice as to whether or not to obey them, understanding that actions have consequences.? Chris, N1CAK<br>
On 6/24/2019 10:19 AM, Dan Clemmensen wrote:<br>
Colleagues: Our community is interested in three different things, and I feel we need to do a better job of separating them, because different folks have different situations.<br>
<br>
Rules: we are not all US Hams. Some are not US and some are not Hams. the rules and regulations differ by jurisdiction and depend on both the hardware you are using and the licences you hold. It may (or may not) be useful to comment on the rules, but when you do, please make sure you mention which jurisdiction, licence, and hardware.<br>
<br>
Radio capabilities: Each radio has its own hardware capabilities. Some of these capabilities interact with the rules in some jurisdictions, and sometimes rules change. There is no reason we cannot discuss hardware capabilities independently of the rules, since those capabilities are still usable in some jurisdictions and/or to some users under some circumstances.<br>
<br>
CHIRP capabilities: Hey, this is the CHIRP user group! We can and should discuss any CHIRP capabilities that may be usable by some CHIRP users in some situations. It is the responsibility of each user to understand the governing rules. It is not the responsibility of the CHIRP software or the CHIRP user community to attempt to enforce these rules, especially since the rules you are trying to enforce may not be applicable to the users you are addressing. A brief sentence to note that a particular capability may violate a rule in a particular situation may be acceptable if it becomes obvious that the user might need the reminder.<br>
<br>
(Thanks for your attention. I will get down off of my soapbox now.)<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:43:36 -0700<br>
From: Dave Gomberg <<a href="mailto:dave2@sfwcf.com" target="_blank">dave2@sfwcf.com</a>><br>
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At 11:28 PM 6/23/2019, Fred Erickson wrote:<br>
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>I don't think Excel was better than other spreadsheets - Borland<br>
>Quattro was nicer and available in text mode as well as Windows.<br>
>Microsoft just bought out (or out advertised) all the<br>
>competition...seemed to me.<br>
<br>
No, they did something even more anti-competitive, they gave it away <br>
free with Windows (for a while).<br>
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