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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Even well branded ones, like the Motorola ones have
a poor range, like a block or two at best.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>They are useful around one's urban property, but
that's about all they are good for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=weather@lightingunlimited.com
href="mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com">David</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">Gene McKnight via
chirp_users</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P>I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor range. And
I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do FRS. Pretty worthless
in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS radios?</P>
<P>I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.</P>
<P>David<BR></P>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users
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<DIV>Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be followed
by others. Gene<BR></DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <A
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href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net"><n1ea@arrl.net></A> wrote: </DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">We
also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.</DIV>
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<H2
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP: 10pt">§95.335 Operation
of non-certified transmitters prohibited.</H2></DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large"><A
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS
and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any radio
that has a removable antenna. Also radios have to be certified under FCC
Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the
import of any radio capable of being used on a frequency that the unit is not
licensed for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any
radio imported will only be able to be used on amateur radio
frequencies.</DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">Also
in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be manufactured,
imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going
to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio operators who own such
radios, like I do:</DIV>
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<H2
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP: 10pt">§95.1791 Sales
of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.</H2>
<P style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 2em">(a) Effective September 30,
2019, no person shall be permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer for
sale any radio equipment capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS)
and subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.</P></DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">FRS
allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only channels
of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14.</DIV>
<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS
licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated
restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good for entire family) is
needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 additional repeater
frequencies. </DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">The
regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. <A style="FONT-SIZE: small"
href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</A></DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default style="FONT-SIZE: large">I
think the past practice of this group not to provide such information to
unlicensed persons is a wise one.</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: large">David N1EA</DIV>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at
4:48 PM Glenn At Home <<A href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net" shape=rect
rel=nofollow target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">glennervin@cableone.net</A>> wrote:<BR
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Let's not play police here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of
the FRS frequencies, now up to 2 watts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>To answer the question, make sure the same
frequencies are in the column next to the receive column.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or
what.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jhwuest@gmail.com href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com"
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to
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<DIV dir=ltr>Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of
Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for that
service.</DIV><BR clear=none>
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<DIV class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Thu, Jun 20, 2019
at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer <<A href="mailto:tunkefer@gmail.com"
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<P class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal>I can hear the FRS radios on
their respective channels, I cannot transmit on those respective channels.
How can I enable the transmit on chirp?</P>
<P class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal>Thanks, in advance.</P>
<P class=ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal>Todd</P>
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