<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">FRS can be ok in a SAR situation where you have a team of searchers spread out a hundred feet or so, with one member having a real radio to talk to base camp, etc. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Jardy Dawson WA7JRD<div>Message sent through sub space hailing frequencies <span style="font-size: 13pt;">using the Universal Translator. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 22, 2019, at 17:50, David <<a href="mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com">weather@lightingunlimited.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor
range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only
do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck
with FRS radios?</p>
<p>I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.</p>
<p>David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via
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<div>Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email
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<div> On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J.
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">We also do not want to be
accomplices in the commission of a crime.</div>
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<h2 style="margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:5pt;font-size:14px;margin-left:0em;color:rgb(0,0,0);">§95.335 Operation
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">GMRS and FRS regulations
have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit any
radio that has a removable antenna. Also radios
have to be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't
on the list, and FCC is planning on banning the
import of any radio capable of being used on a
frequency that the unit is not licensed for. That
is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the future any
radio imported will only be able to be used on
amateur radio frequencies.</div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Also in the near future,
radios will not be legally allowed to be
manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on
BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a problem
for licensed amateur radio operators who own such
radios, like I do:</div>
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<h2 style="margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:5pt;font-size:14px;margin-left:0em;color:rgb(0,0,0);">§95.1791 Sales
of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.</h2>
<p style="text-indent:2em;color:rgb(0,0,0);">(a)
Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be
permitted to manufacture or import, sell or offer
for sale any radio equipment capable of operating
under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B (FRS)
of this chapter.</p>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">FRS allows 2 watts or less
on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS only
channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels
8 – 14.</div>
<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">GMRS licensees can use up
to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated
restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license
(good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees
can also operate on 8 additional repeater
frequencies. </div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">The regulations for GMRS
are quite complicated. <a shape="rect" href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767" style="font-size:small;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</a></div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">I think the past practice
of this group not to provide such information to
unlicensed persons is a wise one.</div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At
Home <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">glennervin@cableone.net</a>>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Let's not play
police here.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I do believe
that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS
frequencies, now up to 2 watts.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">To answer the
question, make sure the same frequencies are
in the column next to the receive column.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I don't recall
if they are labeled RX and TX or what.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a shape="rect" title="jhwuest@gmail.com" href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">John Wuest</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2019
3:42 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a shape="rect" title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Discussion
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users]
Transmit UV5r to FRS</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Using your UV-5R on FRS
frequencies will be a violation of Federal
Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type
accepted for that service.</div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM
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<p class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">I
can hear the FRS radios on their
respective channels, I cannot transmit
on those respective channels. How can
I enable the transmit on chirp?</p>
<p class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Thanks,
in advance.</p>
<p class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Todd</p>
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