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    <p>Used them years ago at Disney World with success, but would far
      prefer a ham HT, especially in Disney, where they have on-campus
      VHF and UHF repeaters.
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/">http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/</a><br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Tom Henderson</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/19 7:56 PM, Glenn At Home
      wrote:<br>
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      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Even well branded ones, like the
          Motorola ones have a poor range, like a block or two at best.</font></div>
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">They are useful around one's
          urban property, but that's about all they are good for.</font></div>
      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
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          <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
              title="weather@lightingunlimited.com"
              href="mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">David</a> </div>
          <div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM</div>
          <div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
              href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">Gene McKnight via chirp_users</a> </div>
          <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS</div>
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      <p>I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very
        poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy
        that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have
        any luck with FRS radios?</p>
      <p>I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.</p>
      <p>David<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight
        via chirp_users wrote:<br>
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        cite="mid:145239843.586262.1561247468852@mail.yahoo.com"
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            <div>Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This
              email will be followed by others.    Gene<br>
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            <br>
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            Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: #26282a">
            <div>On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J.
              Ring, Jr. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;n1ea@arrl.net&gt;</a>
              wrote: </div>
            <div><br>
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">We also do not want to be
                      accomplices in the commission of a crime.</div>
                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">
                      <h2 style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px;
                        COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP:
                        10pt">§95.335   Operation of non-certified
                        transmitters prohibited.</h2>
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                      style="FONT-SIZE: large"><a
href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&amp;mc=true&amp;node=se47.5.95_1335&amp;rgn=div8"
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&amp;mc=true&amp;node=se47.5.95_1335&amp;rgn=div8</a>  <br
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                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS and FRS regulations
                      have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit
                      any radio that has a removable antenna.  Also
                      radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95. 
                      UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on
                      banning the import of any radio capable of being
                      used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed
                      for.  That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the
                      future any radio imported will only be able to be
                      used on amateur radio frequencies.</div>
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">Also in the near future,
                      radios will not be legally allowed to be
                      manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used
                      on BOTH GMRS and FRS.  This is going to cause a
                      problem for licensed amateur radio operators  who
                      own such radios, like I do:</div>
                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">
                      <h2 style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px;
                        COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP:
                        10pt">§95.1791   Sales of GMRS/FRS combination
                        radios prohibited.</h2>
                      <p style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 2em">(a)
                        Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be
                        permitted to manufacture or import, sell or
                        offer for sale any radio equipment capable of
                        operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and
                        subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.</p>
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">FRS allows 2 watts or
                      less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS
                      only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on
                      channels 8 – 14.</div>
                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS licensees can use up
                      to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated
                      restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license
                      (good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees
                      can also operate on 8 additional repeater
                      frequencies.  </div>
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                      style="FONT-SIZE: large"><br clear="none">
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">The regulations for GMRS
                      are quite complicated. <a style="FONT-SIZE: small"
                        href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767"
                        shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</a></div>
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">I think the past practice
                      of this group not to provide such information to
                      unlicensed persons is a wise one.</div>
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                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">73</div>
                    <div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
                      style="FONT-SIZE: large">David N1EA</div>
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                        dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn
                        At Home &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:glennervin@cableone.net"
                          shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">glennervin@cableone.net</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<br clear="none">
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                          style="PADDING-TOP: 15px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px;
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                          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Let's not
                              play police here.</font></div>
                          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I do believe
                              that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS
                              frequencies, now up to 2 watts.</font></div>
                          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">To answer the
                              question, make sure the same frequencies
                              are in the column next to the receive
                              column.</font></div>
                          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">I don't
                              recall if they are labeled RX and TX or
                              what.</font></div>
                          <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
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                              <div><b>From:</b> <a
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                              <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2019
                                3:42 PM</div>
                              <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                  title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" shape="rect"
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                              <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users]
                                Transmit UV5r to FRS</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Using your UV-5R on FRS
                            frequencies will be a violation of Federal
                            Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type
                            accepted for that service.</div>
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                              dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM
                              Todd J. Unkefer &lt;<a
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                                  <p
                                    class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">I
                                    can hear the FRS radios on their
                                    respective channels, I cannot
                                    transmit on those respective
                                    channels. How can I enable the
                                    transmit on chirp?</p>
                                  <p
                                    class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Thanks,
                                    in advance.</p>
                                  <p
                                    class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Todd</p>
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