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<p>Used them years ago at Disney World with success, but would far
prefer a ham HT, especially in Disney, where they have on-campus
VHF and UHF repeaters.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/">http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/</a><br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Tom Henderson</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/19 7:56 PM, Glenn At Home
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Even well branded ones, like the
Motorola ones have a poor range, like a block or two at best.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">They are useful around one's
urban property, but that's about all they are good for.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
title="weather@lightingunlimited.com"
href="mailto:weather@lightingunlimited.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">David</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Gene McKnight via chirp_users</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS</div>
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<p>I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very
poor range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy
that only do FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have
any luck with FRS radios?</p>
<p>I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.</p>
<p>David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight
via chirp_users wrote:<br>
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<div>Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This
email will be followed by others. Gene<br>
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<div>On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J.
Ring, Jr. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:n1ea@arrl.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><n1ea@arrl.net></a>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">We also do not want to be
accomplices in the commission of a crime.</div>
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<h2 style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px;
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP:
10pt">§95.335 Operation of non-certified
transmitters prohibited.</h2>
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style="FONT-SIZE: large"><a
href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8</a> <br
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS and FRS regulations
have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not permit
any radio that has a removable antenna. Also
radios have to be certified under FCC Part 95.
UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is planning on
banning the import of any radio capable of being
used on a frequency that the unit is not licensed
for. That is if it isn't an amateur radio, in the
future any radio imported will only be able to be
used on amateur radio frequencies.</div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">Also in the near future,
radios will not be legally allowed to be
manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used
on BOTH GMRS and FRS. This is going to cause a
problem for licensed amateur radio operators who
own such radios, like I do:</div>
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<h2 style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; FONT-SIZE: 14px;
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); MARGIN-LEFT: 0em; MARGIN-TOP:
10pt">§95.1791 Sales of GMRS/FRS combination
radios prohibited.</h2>
<p style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 2em">(a)
Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be
permitted to manufacture or import, sell or
offer for sale any radio equipment capable of
operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and
subpart B (FRS) of this chapter.</p>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">FRS allows 2 watts or
less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS
only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on
channels 8 – 14.</div>
<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">GMRS licensees can use up
to 50 watts, but there are somewhat complicated
restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license
(good for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees
can also operate on 8 additional repeater
frequencies. </div>
<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">The regulations for GMRS
are quite complicated. <a style="FONT-SIZE: small"
href="https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767"
shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767</a></div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">I think the past practice
of this group not to provide such information to
unlicensed persons is a wise one.</div>
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style="FONT-SIZE: large">73</div>
<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_default"
style="FONT-SIZE: large">David N1EA</div>
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<div class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992gmail_attr"
dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn
At Home <<a
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shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">glennervin@cableone.net</a>>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Let's not
play police here.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I do believe
that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS
frequencies, now up to 2 watts.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">To answer the
question, make sure the same frequencies
are in the column next to the receive
column.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I don't
recall if they are labeled RX and TX or
what.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Glenn</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a
title="jhwuest@gmail.com"
href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com"
shape="rect" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">John
Wuest</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2019
3:42 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
title="chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users]
Transmit UV5r to FRS</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Using your UV-5R on FRS
frequencies will be a violation of Federal
Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type
accepted for that service.</div>
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dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM
Todd J. Unkefer <<a
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<p
class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">I
can hear the FRS radios on their
respective channels, I cannot
transmit on those respective
channels. How can I enable the
transmit on chirp?</p>
<p
class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Thanks,
in advance.</p>
<p
class="ydp13dc0649yiv2781781992MsoNormal">Todd</p>
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