<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">There's at least 4 ways to say that. I'd guess more...😀<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Josef</span><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from a phone with a tiny screen </span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On May 24, 2019, at 5:22 PM, Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:Tom@henderson4.us">Tom@henderson4.us</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>I've always heard that stated as "Fast, reliable, and Cheap. Pick
two."<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/24/19 3:16 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jz@zeevi.org">jz@zeevi.org</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the SW world, there are only three knobs
to turn: fast, good, and cheap. However, increasing fast
decreases good. Increasing cheap decreases good. But, fast and
cheap can be increased at the expense of good. The rest is
left as an exercise to the student. <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com"><chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Kemker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of CHIRP
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com"><chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Truth or Fiction<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Just got off the
phone with Yaesu tech support. I wanted to know if it was a
Yaesu policy to tell people not to use CHIRP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">They say
they've seen bricked radios caused by CHIRP. Said it's
because CHIRP wrote to areas they're not supposed to write
to. Said that RT Systems "works with Yaesu" and that's
why they support RT Systems. Who would write the internal
software for a radio where the programming software could
brick it?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Fri, May
24, 2019 at 3:33 PM Ben Smith <<a href="mailto:thex1le@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">thex1le@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I love chirp
but there are some know bugs with yeasu radios. Doesn't
mean you shouldn't use it though.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><a href="https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1735" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/1735</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Fri,
May 24, 2019, 12:25 John Kemker <<a href="mailto:kemkerj3@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kemkerj3@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Just got
off the phone with a national amateur radio vendor,
asking if they had the cable for my FTM3200DR for
sale. I was told they have the cable with the
RT-Systems ADMS software, but not the cable by
itself. I told the salesperson that I didn't need
the software, that I had used CHIRP for years and he
proceeded to tell me "You know, you're not supposed
to use CHIRP with Yaesu radios...." I cut him off
before he got finished with his statement and told
him that it was an old wives' tale and not true.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That's
the second time I've heard the same propaganda
from that particular vendor's sales team.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">73 de
W5NNH<o:p></o:p></p>
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Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:54 AM Peter J. McClosky
<<a href="mailto:pmcclosky@earthlink.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pmcclosky@earthlink.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">While
I have only programed 1 Yeasu (successful), I
have programed over 150 Baofengs and Wouxuns,
all but 2 successfully on the first try. (I am
the unofficial "programer” for my club). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I
made a simi-brick out of 2 Baofengs. It look
a while, but I was successful in restoring
both of these to full use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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find that lack of understanding how to use
Chirp leads to problems in using it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">(Also,
and contrary to most rumors, I have never
found a programming cable that did not
work.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Peter,
N7IY<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">P.S,
Before anyone says anything, the way I
program Baofengs, they will not transmit
outside of the amateur radio bands.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Peter
J. McClosky, N7IY<br>
Eugene, Oregon<br>
<a href="mailto:pmcclosky@earthlink.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pmcclosky@earthlink.net</a><br>
<a href="mailto:n7iy@arrl.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">n7iy@arrl.net</a><br>
<a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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2019, at 4:07 AM, John Kemker <<a href="mailto:kemkerj3@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kemkerj3@gmail.com</a>>
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