<div dir="auto">Or build your own.   For less than10 bucks and some solder, you can have one that works and won&#39;t break the bank. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Chris</div><div dir="auto">KM4PUR</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:47 AM Mike-2007 &lt;<a href="mailto:mike-2007@elp.rr.com">mike-2007@elp.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_4526867758246411002WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">I agree 110%.<span>  </span>It seems that cables are the #1 cause for troubles across the board, not only with CHIRP, but with many other programs too.<span>  </span>It stems from hams being too cheap to pay for quality.<span>  </span>They have an old serial cable, and that was good enough back in the day.<span>  </span>Yeah, it was!<span>  </span>But no modern computer has a serial port anymore.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">There are 4 possible solutions to the situation.<span>  </span>One is cheap, three are more costly.<span>  </span>The cheap solution is the $5 USB-serial adapter.<span>  </span>And that will work.<span>  </span>For a while.<span>  </span>But for $5, you aren&#39;t getting one of the authentic adapters, you&#39;re getting a clone.<span>  </span>And somewhere down the road an official Windows update is going to over-write that driver, and the headaches begin.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">The second and perhaps most costly approach that still retains your original serial cable is to install a serial port board into your new computer.<span>  </span>I haven&#39;t priced serial port boards in a while, but they are more than $5.<span>  </span>A quick search shows a cheap 1-port board at $8, and the expensive 4-port board at $88.<span>  </span>I&#39;m not sure I would trust the quality of the $8 board.<span>  </span>But I certainly don&#39;t need the 4-port $88 board either.<span>  </span>So the cheap ham is still enticed to the USB-serial adapter, which will eventually quit working.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">The third solution is to just suck it up and pay for a modern cable.<span>  </span>It is going to cost something around $30.<span>  </span>I just checked RT Systems for 3 popular cables.<span>  </span>My Yaesu FTdx5000MP, the Yaesu FTdx3000, and the Icom IC-7300 are all $30 each.<span>  </span>I&#39;ve caught them cheaper on sale.<span>  </span>RT systems writes their cable drivers, so Windows will not over-write them with something that will not work on the next update.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">The fourth solution is to hold on to an older computer with a serial port.<span>  </span>The problem is that nobody sells DOS anymore, and not many modern programs run under DOS anymore.<span>  </span>But your serial cable will plug in just fine.<span>  </span>Windows 3.1 anyone?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">Well, there is one other solution.<span>  </span>Once you get it working, do not update windows.<span>  </span>It is a possibility, but I wouldn&#39;t do that.<span>  </span>Of course, another possible solution is to not run Windows.<span>  </span>But we&#39;re talking main-stream here, not specialized.<span>  </span>Howl as you will, Unix/Linux/Mac are just not main-stream.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">So here is the question.<span>  </span>You spent several hundred dollars or more on a new radio.<span>  </span>You also spent a few hundred dollars or more on a new Windows-10 computer.<span>  </span>Your investment in antennas and tower, quality coax, and other equipment to make a reliable station all adds up.<span>  </span>Then you go cheap on a USB-serial converter?<span>  </span>And when Windows over-writes the driver, you struggle to get it working again.<span>  </span>Isn&#39;t your time and frustration worth a $30 cable to avoid all of that?<span>  </span>After days of poking at it, cussing and discussing it on the forum, and declaring the software doesn&#39;t work, isn&#39;t $30 a cheap price to pay to avoid all that?<span>  </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">Get a good cable.<span>  </span>No matter what software you use, no matter what O/S you run, a good cable is an investment in sanity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jock via chirp_users<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 06, 2018 22:08<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [chirp_users] New Daily Build<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>CHIRP works with Windows 7 ,8 ,9 and 10 without any problems.<br>Get a quality cable like those from RTSYSTEMS. com<u></u><u></u></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt;text-align:center"><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade style="color:#999999" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 Eugene Baleme via chirp_users &lt;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0000a0"><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_4526867758246411002AOLMsgPart_1.2_25edd90f-5e12-4e98-aec3-1e7d3c45f8e5"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks. I tried it but still will not work, error 2, on my port. chirp just does not work with windows 7 or 10. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="m_4526867758246411002ydp826ce220yahoo_quoted_8497783008"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 12:18:41 AM PDT, Build System &lt;<a href="mailto:donotreply@danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">donotreply@danplanet.com</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">Greetings,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">A new daily build of CHIRP is available.  This includes changes made<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">bug fixes, and/or bugs.  If you are interested in trying it, grab it<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">from the following location:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">  <a href="http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20180606" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20180606</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">Changes for Build #527<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">[Dan Smith &lt;<a href="mailto:dsmith@danplanet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dsmith@danplanet.com</a>&gt;] Fix Jetstream 270MH offset and mode/power bugs<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">The mode bit is elsewhere, and the power field is actually two bits.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">Also, the offset for the start of the alpha tags was wrong, causing the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">tags to be out of sync with the memory channels.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a">#5865<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-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