<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>What headache? Big deal if Windows updates the driver! If it does, it takes less than about 2 minutes to roll it back. I have several different radios that use a cable with the fake Prolific chip. Many different ends on the cables, but they all act as the same, as long as you use the same physical USB port. It's not like you have to reprogram your radios everyday now, is it? Sure, I have some of the RT Systems stuff, but I usually had to buy that before CHIRP was available. But, I find that on the rare occasion my drivers have been 'updated ', I take 2 minutes of my valuable time, do one reset that takes care of all my cables, and life goes on. NOT A BIG DEAL!! Get over it!<br><br><div>Jardy Dawson</div><div>WA7JRD Ham Radio</div><div><br></div><div>Message sent by... Oh who the heck really cares?</div></div><div><br>On Jun 7, 2018, at 06:46, Mike-2007 <<a href="mailto:mike-2007@elp.rr.com">mike-2007@elp.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><link rel="File-List" href="cid:filelist.xml@01D3FE33.B57E0B00"><link rel="Edit-Time-Data" href="cid:editdata.mso"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">I agree 110%.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It seems that cables are the #1 cause for troubles across the board, not only with CHIRP, but with many other programs too.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It stems from hams being too cheap to pay for quality.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>They have an old serial cable, and that was good enough back in the day.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Yeah, it was!<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>But no modern computer has a serial port anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">There are 4 possible solutions to the situation.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>One is cheap, three are more costly.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The cheap solution is the $5 USB-serial adapter.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>And that will work.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>For a while.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>But for $5, you aren't getting one of the authentic adapters, you're getting a clone.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>And somewhere down the road an official Windows update is going to over-write that driver, and the headaches begin.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">The second and perhaps most costly approach that still retains your original serial cable is to install a serial port board into your new computer.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I haven't priced serial port boards in a while, but they are more than $5.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>A quick search shows a cheap 1-port board at $8, and the expensive 4-port board at $88.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I'm not sure I would trust the quality of the $8 board.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>But I certainly don't need the 4-port $88 board either.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>So the cheap ham is still enticed to the USB-serial adapter, which will eventually quit working.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">The third solution is to just suck it up and pay for a modern cable.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It is going to cost something around $30.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I just checked RT Systems for 3 popular cables.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>My Yaesu FTdx5000MP, the Yaesu FTdx3000, and the Icom IC-7300 are all $30 each.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I've caught them cheaper on sale.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>RT systems writes their cable drivers, so Windows will not over-write them with something that will not work on the next update.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">The fourth solution is to hold on to an older computer with a serial port.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The problem is that nobody sells DOS anymore, and not many modern programs run under DOS anymore.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>But your serial cable will plug in just fine.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Windows 3.1 anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">Well, there is one other solution.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Once you get it working, do not update windows.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It is a possibility, but I wouldn't do that.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Of course, another possible solution is to not run Windows.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>But we're talking main-stream here, not specialized.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Howl as you will, Unix/Linux/Mac are just not main-stream.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">So here is the question.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>You spent several hundred dollars or more on a new radio.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>You also spent a few hundred dollars or more on a new Windows-10 computer.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Your investment in antennas and tower, quality coax, and other equipment to make a reliable station all adds up.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Then you go cheap on a USB-serial converter?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>And when Windows over-writes the driver, you struggle to get it working again.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Isn't your time and frustration worth a $30 cable to avoid all of that?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>After days of poking at it, cussing and discussing it on the forum, and declaring the software doesn't work, isn't $30 a cheap price to pay to avoid all that?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D">Get a good cable.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>No matter what software you use, no matter what O/S you run, a good cable is an investment in sanity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes">Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a> [<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jock via chirp_users<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 06, 2018 22:08<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [chirp_users] New Daily Build<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p>CHIRP works with Windows 7 ,8 ,9 and 10 without any problems.<br>Get a quality cable like those from RTSYSTEMS. com<o:p></o:p></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt;text-align:center"><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#999999" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 Eugene Baleme via chirp_users <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0000A0"><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_25edd90f-5e12-4e98-aec3-1e7d3c45f8e5"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thanks. I tried it but still will not work, error 2, on my port. chirp just does not work with windows 7 or 10. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ydp826ce220yahoo_quoted_8497783008"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 12:18:41 AM PDT, Build System <<a href="mailto:donotreply@danplanet.com">donotreply@danplanet.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">Greetings,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">from the following location:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"> <a href="http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20180606" target="_blank">http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20180606</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">Changes for Build #527<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">[Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dsmith@danplanet.com" target="_blank">dsmith@danplanet.com</a>>] Fix Jetstream 270MH offset and mode/power bugs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">The mode bit is elsewhere, and the power field is actually two bits.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">Also, the offset for the start of the alpha tags was wrong, causing the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">tags to be out of sync with the memory channels.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A">#5865<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span 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