<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">These constant emails about Chirp not working must drive Dan and his cohorts absolutely crazy. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">>>>IT'S NOT CHIRP!! IT'S THE CABLES AND THE DRIVERS. LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND YOU'LL BE FINE!<<<</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">One thing I will say though is sometimes you have to unplug and plug back in both cloned and un-cloned data cables. I am not sure what's going on there.. but remember, Device Manager is your friend.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-7374452166096097117gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ)</span><br></div><font face="courier new, monospace"><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><br></font></div>245 Corum Hill Road<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></font><div><font face="courier new, monospace">Castalian Springs, TN 37031<br></font><div><a value="+16153104242" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(17,85,204)">(615) 310-4242</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"> Cell</span><br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><a value="+16153529159" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">(615) 562-5128</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Home</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="http://hammondb3organ.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">http://hammondb3organ.net</a><br></font></div><div><a href="http://overdubs.net" style="font-family:"courier new",monospace;color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px" target="_blank">http://overdubs.net</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Jardy Dawson via chirp_users <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.<wbr>danplanet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>What headache? Big deal if Windows updates the driver! If it does, it takes less than about 2 minutes to roll it back. I have several different radios that use a cable with the fake Prolific chip. Many different ends on the cables, but they all act as the same, as long as you use the same physical USB port. It's not like you have to reprogram your radios everyday now, is it? Sure, I have some of the RT Systems stuff, but I usually had to buy that before CHIRP was available. But, I find that on the rare occasion my drivers have been 'updated ', I take 2 minutes of my valuable time, do one reset that takes care of all my cables, and life goes on. NOT A BIG DEAL!! Get over it!<br><br><div>Jardy Dawson</div><div>WA7JRD Ham Radio</div><div><br></div><div>Message sent by... Oh who the heck really cares?</div></div><div><div class="m_-7374452166096097117h5"><div><br>On Jun 7, 2018, at 06:46, Mike-2007 <<a href="mailto:mike-2007@elp.rr.com" target="_blank">mike-2007@elp.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><div class="m_-7374452166096097117m_-4556303958356369810WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">I agree 110%.<span> </span>It seems that cables are the #1 cause for troubles across the board, not only with CHIRP, but with many other programs too.<span> </span>It stems from hams being too cheap to pay for quality.<span> </span>They have an old serial cable, and that was good enough back in the day.<span> </span>Yeah, it was!<span> </span>But no modern computer has a serial port anymore.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">There are 4 possible solutions to the situation.<span> </span>One is cheap, three are more costly.<span> </span>The cheap solution is the $5 USB-serial adapter.<span> </span>And that will work.<span> </span>For a while.<span> </span>But for $5, you aren't getting one of the authentic adapters, you're getting a clone.<span> </span>And somewhere down the road an official Windows update is going to over-write that driver, and the headaches begin.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">The second and perhaps most costly approach that still retains your original serial cable is to install a serial port board into your new computer.<span> </span>I haven't priced serial port boards in a while, but they are more than $5.<span> </span>A quick search shows a cheap 1-port board at $8, and the expensive 4-port board at $88.<span> </span>I'm not sure I would trust the quality of the $8 board.<span> </span>But I certainly don't need the 4-port $88 board either.<span> </span>So the cheap ham is still enticed to the USB-serial adapter, which will eventually quit working.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">The third solution is to just suck it up and pay for a modern cable.<span> </span>It is going to cost something around $30.<span> </span>I just checked RT Systems for 3 popular cables.<span> </span>My Yaesu FTdx5000MP, the Yaesu FTdx3000, and the Icom IC-7300 are all $30 each.<span> </span>I've caught them cheaper on sale.<span> </span>RT systems writes their cable drivers, so Windows will not over-write them with something that will not work on the next update.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">The fourth solution is to hold on to an older computer with a serial port.<span> </span>The problem is that nobody sells DOS anymore, and not many modern programs run under DOS anymore.<span> </span>But your serial cable will plug in just fine.<span> </span>Windows 3.1 anyone?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">Well, there is one other solution.<span> </span>Once you get it working, do not update windows.<span> </span>It is a possibility, but I wouldn't do that.<span> </span>Of course, another possible solution is to not run Windows.<span> </span>But we're talking main-stream here, not specialized.<span> </span>Howl as you will, Unix/Linux/Mac are just not main-stream.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">So here is the question.<span> </span>You spent several hundred dollars or more on a new radio.<span> </span>You also spent a few hundred dollars or more on a new Windows-10 computer.<span> </span>Your investment in antennas and tower, quality coax, and other equipment to make a reliable station all adds up.<span> </span>Then you go cheap on a USB-serial converter?<span> </span>And when Windows over-writes the driver, you struggle to get it working again.<span> </span>Isn't your time and frustration worth a $30 cable to avoid all of that?<span> </span>After days of poking at it, cussing and discussing it on the forum, and declaring the software doesn't work, isn't $30 a cheap price to pay to avoid all that?<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">Get a good cable.<span> </span>No matter what software you use, no matter what O/S you run, a good cable is an investment in sanity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d">Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.d<wbr>anplanet.com</a> [<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">mailto:chirp_users-bounces@in<wbr>trepid.danplanet.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jock via chirp_users<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 06, 2018 22:08<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet<wbr>.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [chirp_users] New Daily Build<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>CHIRP works with Windows 7 ,8 ,9 and 10 without any problems.<br>Get a quality cable like those from RTSYSTEMS. com<u></u><u></u></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt;text-align:center"><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade style="color:#999999" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 Eugene Baleme via chirp_users <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#0000a0"><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplane<wbr>t.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#999999">> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_-7374452166096097117m_-4556303958356369810AOLMsgPart_1.2_25edd90f-5e12-4e98-aec3-1e7d3c45f8e5"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thanks. I tried it but still will not work, error 2, on my port. chirp just does not work with windows 7 or 10. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="m_-7374452166096097117m_-4556303958356369810ydp826ce220yahoo_quoted_8497783008"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 12:18:41 AM PDT, Build System <<a href="mailto:donotreply@danplanet.com" target="_blank">donotreply@danplanet.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">Greetings,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">A new daily build of CHIRP is available. This includes changes made<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">bug fixes, and/or bugs. If you are interested in trying it, grab it<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">from the following location:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"> <a href="http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20180606" target="_blank">http://trac.chirp.danplanet.co<wbr>m/chirp_daily/daily-20180606</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">Changes for Build #527<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">[Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dsmith@danplanet.com" target="_blank">dsmith@danplanet.com</a>>] Fix Jetstream 270MH offset and mode/power bugs<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">The mode bit is elsewhere, and the power field is actually two bits.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">Also, the offset for the start of the alpha tags was wrong, causing the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">tags to be out of sync with the memory channels.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a">#5865<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt"><span 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