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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Won't argue with a thing you said.....<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>EXCEPT..... ham radio isn't my only hobby, and I have some software for another hobby that just will not function outside of windows.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Tried on a MAC, tried on Linux, tried some other thing my friend locally has.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Nothing worked.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And this other hobby is more important to me than ham radio.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So I'll just struggle along on Windows-7 (64 bit) and hopefully with the RT Systems cable I won't have the troubles others seem to have here.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Heck, I'd still be using XP if they hadn't quit supporting it!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Perhaps someday someone will write good software for Android, and I'll take my tablet instead of the little Net-Book I carry out now.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But until it happens, I'm on Win-7.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Funny, but I've had no problems on my end.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>In fact, this E-mail address was first used in Dec of 2006, and I don't feel a need to change it either, still no SPAM, no virus, no update problems.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I must be doing something right!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chuck Hast<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 07, 2018 19:14<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of CHIRP<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] New Daily Build - DOESN'T WORK.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Well all of that said, I would still get me a little ol' machine that will run some<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>light version of Linux be done with it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Oh by the way, Linux may not be DESKTOP mainstream but almost every<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>flat screen TV, home router, GPS and other "smart" devices run on it. Add the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Android (Linux kernel) and I am sorry but I think that dealing with the pain<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and agony of MS windows is just not worth it when my Linux boxen just keep<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>going, and going and going and going... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You could always get a RPi and run it on that, I have one I use exactly for<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>that so I can have something small to run Chirp on for those times when I<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>want to use a tablet or phone to program a radio...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So yes there are plenty of alternatives, but you have to be willing to look at<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>those alternatives, the authors chose and chose well, I have some DMR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>radios and all of them fall into M$ hell in one form or another, I generally<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>try to use them on Wine, but they are all cantankerous. Chirp just works,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(Not for DMR but that is a whole other can of worms) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>BIG THANK YOU TO THE GUYS WHO WRITE THE CODE!! KEEP IT UP<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>IT IS VERY FINE CODE. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I had to deal with Windows in various industries, it was a real education in<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>how something so messed up can become so pervasive just because the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>organization behind it is more of a marketing org. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My mom has a Win 10 machine, the applications will not talk to the printer,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>but the printer application will do so, all of the applications can SEE the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>printer, they just cannot talk to it. I tried to fix it, the logs were obnoxious,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>she brought in someone paid to fix it, he came way and said "there is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>something wrong with the OS". I am getting ready to move her to Linux<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and stop that sort of thing. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As amateur radio ops we need to be more open, when you are stuck on<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>one OS, it is like being in a mono-culture country, when that particular <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>mono-culture ag product gets a plague the whole country is up a creek.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can run Chip on LInux (prefered) probably most any other Unix based<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OS without too much work, Mac and if needed Windows... I have tried<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>not to be mono-culture, but have my preferred solution. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" target="_blank">nigel@ngunn.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However, most of my radio require TX and rx on one wire so I guess there is an alternative for that.<br><br><br><span class=im>> On 07 June 2018 at 16:50 John La <<a href="mailto:Johnla@usa.net">Johnla@usa.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><span class=im>> </span><br><span class=im>> </span><br><span class=im>> There's always the convert the cable for $1.50 solution.</span><br><span class=im>> <a href="http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ProgrCable.php" target="_blank">http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ProgrCable.php</a></span><br><span class=im>> </span><br><span class=im>> John K3NXU</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>chirp_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users" target="_blank">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users</a><br>This message was sent to Chuck Hast at <a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com">kp4djt@gmail.com</a><br>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all style='mso-special-character:line-break'><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Celestial!!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chuck -- KP4DJT<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>