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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Good morning Mike.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>I cannot comment on your choice of cable.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I do not know them.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>There was a time about 8 years ago when any cable would work and it made sense to go cheap.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But then the USB-Serial converter that chip was cloned and sold cheaply quit working.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>To fight back the developers of the real chip and drivers wrote another "official" driver that caused their thieving competitor's cables to quit working.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>For a while the FTDI chip-set could be counted on as it hadn't been cloned yet.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But about 3 years ago the FTDI chipset was also cloned, with the same result.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And for a while you could guess by price.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The more expensive cables were not clones.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But now you cannot tell even by price, some of the sellers caught on and upped the cost of the counterfeit cables to make them look legit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>I can see both sides of the issue.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Everyone wants a USB-Serial chip for $1.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But the people who developed the chip and the software deserve to be paid for the work done in design, testing and marketing it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>You can argue either way for it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But the fact is that Windows updates the driver based on the "official" driver provided to them by the owners of the patent for the chipset and software.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So at any time, a new driver will be written, sent to Microsoft, be included in a Windows Update, and many counterfeit cables will just quit working.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>I have been using various RT-Systems cables for a number of years now.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I have only had one issue with an RT-systems cable, and that was self-inflicted, and quickly diagnosed and fixed with a call to the RT-systems support tech.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Yeah, I pay like $25 for the nicely made cables.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>That is 2-1/5 to 5 times more expensive than the cloned cables.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But when a Windows Update gets pushed to my computer, I have no fear that the drivers will be over-written.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>As to the software, I like the ADMS-x stuff very much.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It drives just like Excel, and I work a lot in Excel.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So for me, it is nice.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But I needed to make some changes to my FT-817s, and the RT-Systems software wouldn't do it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Chirp did it.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I was worried about a learning curve with chirp.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But it wasn't too difficult to figure out, and in less than 30 minutes I had both of my FT-817s all ready to go.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>I would say to download the latest version of Chirp and give it a go.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It doesn't drive quite like Excel or ADMS-x, but it isn't difficult to learn.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Gotta run, today is my last day on shift, I start 8 days off at 1730 today.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Yesterday a 1,335 MW generator tripped off-line, and the rest of the day was a scramble to keep the grid whole on a hot afternoon.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I hope today is smoother.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And I need the break.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael D Earls<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 22:01<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of CHIRP'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Yaesu C4FM radios<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would have used CHIRP but I was fighting an Errno 13 issue and CHIRP wouldn’t run. By the time I got past that, I had my FT-70DR programmed with ADMS-10.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>At some point I’ll probably download into CHIRP to compare. I’m too new to know what might be missing in the ADMS-10, but it was super intuitive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’ve never purchased from RTS. I bought an FTDI cable for the Baofengs and a Valley Enterprises cable for the FT-8800R. No issues other than the Errno 13 issue which I worked out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Earls<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>AF5MS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>TSRA Life Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>NRA Benefactor Member</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike-2007<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 20:51<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of CHIRP'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Yaesu C4FM radios<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Hey Mike - AF5MS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Many people chafe at the thought of paying a fair price for good software and a USB programming cable that works after every windows update. And of course there are a few who can't get the software to work, there are always those.... Running ADMS-x on several radios here, helped develop the FTdx5000 version. Virtually ALL my programming cables are from RT-Systems and I haven't had a cable fail to perform in the last 5 years through windows updates and computer upgrades.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Chirp does a few things the ADMS-x does not. Especially for my two FT-817s. I am fortunate to have the option of either, along with the most reliable cables ever,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Vy73 -- Mike -- KD5KC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael D Earls<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 15:15<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of CHIRP'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] Yaesu C4FM radios<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’m new to C4FM, having just gotten in on the low end with an FT-70DR.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>But I was extremely pleased with how easy the ADMS-10 software was to use. I entered 50+ repeaters manually and haven’t yet tried importing / exporting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What issues are you having with the ADMS-7 & 8?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Earls<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>AF5MS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>TSRA Life Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>NRA Benefactor Member</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Ligeza<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:45<br><b>To:</b> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [chirp_users] Yaesu C4FM radios<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is there any hope that the YAESU C4FM radios such as FT2DR FTM400DR FTM100DR FTM3200DR will ever be included in the CHIRP compatible radios?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Right now we are stuck with paying RTSystems an outrageous price for a produce that is far inferior to CHIRP.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>***************************************************************<br><a href="mailto:mike.ligeza@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.ligeza@gmail.com</a><br>VE3UIL<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Smiths Falls, ON<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>