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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wow, was that page translated to English, or can 
someone really spell that poorly?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Glenn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=wireless3.14159@gmail.com href="mailto:wireless3.14159@gmail.com">Jeff</A> 
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 
href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">Discussion of CHIRP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 12, 2018 12:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chirp_users] New user, and question on diagnosing new 
radio</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Looks like you wouldn't want to use some of these radios on 
amateur repeaters even if you could.<BR><BR><A 
href="https://www.rmham.org/wordpress/baofeng-dm-5r-test-results/">https://www.rmham.org/wordpress/baofeng-dm-5r-test-results/</A><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On May 12, 2018 4:58:23 PM UTC, Tim Lavoie &lt;<A 
href="mailto:tim.lavoie@gmail.com">tim.lavoie@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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  <P>Thanks Neil. I've just been looking at the links from John, and yeah, 
  getting a sense that there's lots more going on there. <BR></P>
  <P><BR></P>
  <P>In terms of being able to just talk to the radio though, are they 
  different? Basically wondering if software could read the whole works, update 
  the bits it does understand, and then put it all back. <BR></P><BR>The 
  openspot devices look interesting too, thanks.<BR><BR>&nbsp; Tim<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 2018-05-12 09:45 AM, neil b wrote:<BR></DIV>
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    <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px">dmr is more complex to 
    program than a 1 dimension memory layout of analog radios. theres 
    talkgroups, colours, zones, contacts etc and they have to be then stitched 
    together by the software. a sharkrf openspot may be usefull to you if no 
    local repeaters. recommended. i got 2 <SPAN>😊</SPAN></P>
    <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px"><SPAN>otherwise, chirp is the 
    best app for me on my other fleet of radios, works 
    great.</SPAN><BR></P><BR><BR>
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    face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
    href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</A> 
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    href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">&lt;chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com&gt;</A> 
    on behalf of Tim Lavoie <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E 
    href="mailto:tim.lavoie@gmail.com">&lt;tim.lavoie@gmail.com&gt;</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> 
    12 May 2018 17:31<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
    href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    Re: [chirp_users] New user, and question on diagnosing new radio</FONT> 
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    <DIV class=PlainText>Thanks John.<BR><BR>Do you know if that's a technical 
    limitation, or just means that there <BR>hasn't been anyone trying to work 
    with this model yet? Are the protocols <BR>used to talk to the radios 
    documented anywhere? Could always look at the <BR>source I suppose.&nbsp; 
    &lt;grin&gt;<BR><BR>For what it's worth, it turns out I don't have a digital 
    repeater in my <BR>area yet anyway, but will be looking to set up for 
    regular analog use.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Tim<BR><BR><BR>On 2018-05-12 12:56 
    AM, John LaMartina wrote:will be looking to set up <BR>for regular analog 
    use.<BR>&gt; The digital version of the Baofeng is not supported by 
    CHIRP.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; John<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <A id=LPlnk794772 
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    On May 12, 2018, at 3:24 AM, Matthieu Lochey <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E 
    href="mailto:mat@lochey.eu">&lt;mat@lochey.eu&gt;</A> 
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Hi Amnon Zohar<BR>&gt;&gt; It's not the same 
    radio.<BR>&gt;&gt; This new one have:<BR>&gt;&gt; Mode DMR, TDMA, Tier 2, 2 
    TimeSlot.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Le 12/05/2018 à 09:05, 
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    2018-05-12 9:29 GMT+03:00 Tim Lavoie &lt;<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
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    Hello all,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Call me 
    new to everything - brand new ham (VA7TJL), new Chirp 
    user,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and have a new radio. I've 
    read docs, but please let me know if 
    the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; questions are too 
    dumb.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've picked up 
    a Baofeng DM-5R, V3 as seen here:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A 
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    It shows up as BF-5R on the boot screen, but neither that nor 
    DM-5R<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; are listed as supported. I did 
    see though that there are other<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Baofeng radios under new and unusual names, that might be 
    supported<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; as a variant of one that 
    is known. If there is a way to tell if 
    this<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is the case, I'm open to 
    suggestions.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The 
    Windows software from the manufacturer does detect and read 
    the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; config from the radio, but the 
    USB device (radio with supplied<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    cable) shows up in settings Win 10 settings as, "MCU MOUSE 
    DEMO",<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; under the "Bluetooth and 
    other Devices" section. When I try to 
    read<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; from the radio in Chirp, there 
    is nothing shown under Ports in the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    drop down. I can select Baofeng as the vendor, and a number of 
    other<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; models are listed. Similarly, 
    under Linux (current x64 Mint, based<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    on Ubuntu)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; , there is no known port 
    that the software is looking 
    for.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Ideas?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Cheers,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Tim<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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