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<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Bad enough already when everyone is wide. Audio is all over the map.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 1, 2018 1:52:19 AM UTC, Nigel Johnson <nw.johnson@ieee.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>It depends on the age of the person you are talking to. When I
first got into 2m FM 48 years ago, Wide was 15kHz deviation and
barrow was 5kHz!</p>
<p>When you get down below 3kHz you are losing the FM effect.</p>
<p>There is no way we should be using the new narrow - our bands are
barely occupied now, therefore no need for squeezing more in. Most
of the repeaters I know if in my city have filters for 16F3
acceptance. (Carson's rule: 5 kHz deviation plus 3 kHz audio times
2)<br>
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<p>When you get people using the new barrow on a repeater with 16F3
acceptance, there is a marked difference in audio level and
susceptance to noise. It is difficult to listen to a multi-way QSO
without riding the volume control up and down, and some of the
people I hear on the repeater are so low that I can barely hear
them when I have it turned all teh way up wit mobile noise.</p>
<p>73 de Nigel ve3id</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/18 21:38, Jardy Dawson via
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<div>Public safety/business is narrow. GMRS/FRS/Marine will not
change, as those radios are not separately programmable. Ham
will stay wide for now.<br>
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<div>Jardy Dawson</div>
<div>WA7JRD Ham Radio</div>
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On Mar 31, 2018, at 17:41, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <<a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" moz-do-not-send="true">nigel@ngunn.net</a>>
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<p>It's true of most repeaters in the the American continent,
however, the rest of the world has been narrow band for many
years.</p>
<p>Officially, the US is also narrow band. Americans are just
reluctant to change.</p>
<p>Same is true with metric measurements.</p>
<p>Use wide on a narrow system and your audio on speech peaks
might be distorted. Use narrow on a wide system and you will
get good audio quality albeit at a slightly lower level.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 31 March 2018 at 18:48 John Wuest
<<a href="mailto:jhwuest@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jhwuest@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>ALSO - Someone commented that the transmit mode needs
to be changed to Wide Band. This is CORRECT information
for ALL ham repeaters unless their specific information
states otherwise. The repeater (145.23 in Huntsville) is a
wide-band machine.</div>
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<p class="io-ox-signature">Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive,
Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032<br>
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail <a href="mailto:nigel@ngunn.net" moz-do-not-send="true">nigel@ngunn.net</a>
www <a href="http://www.ngunn.net" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ngunn.net</a>
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Member of ARRL, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club
International #385,<br>
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, GCARES, EAA382.</p>
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