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<p>LOL</p>
<p>You confused me with the original post. I thought you were
trying to link to a UV-5R accessory. :-)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage
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about is that my original post was not about radios at all.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:monospace,monospace">It was the fact that I
had to pay almost $10 more than my UV-5R for a remote for my
Apollo gate.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Chuck
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<div>I just bought one the other day, a UV-5X3</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Wed, Mar 21,
2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F. Beesley <span
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href="mailto:chrisbees2@hotmail.com"
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I've
said it before and I'll say it again. The
whole concept of programmable devices that
can be programmed to destruction by
interfering with the 'wrong' memory is
flawed from the start and I don't understand
why people buy them. The whole concept of
programmable devices that require the use of
non-standard cables which in turn require
the use of out-of-date drivers on the
programming device is ridiculous. Why these
radios have gained such a following is
beyond me. Why most of them have not been
returned for refunds the minute they exhibit
the faults that I have read about on here
time and time again is also beyond me.
Whatever happened to Plug And Play?</p>
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<div>I removed radio from box, put it on the charger,
and made sure it was charged.</div>
<div>Then I plugged USB device into computer, and
radio started Chirp, told it</div>
<div>what the radio was, downloaded the original radio
data, made a copy and</div>
<div>started from there. </div>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">As an
example, even the cheapest printer has more
complex user-selectable parameters available
than most of the programmable radios.
Printers come with drivers that work, with
user-friendly user-interfaces that only
allow the programming of whatever is
sensibly programmable, and with hardware
interfaces that are connected to the
programming device via standard cables
available from the average supermarket down
the road. When I bought my UV5R it came with
a programming cable that didn't work, and an
incomprehensible CD full of software that is
mostly useless. When I finally got something
to work the user-interface to the
spread-sheet lookalike was at best clunky -
I would describe it as awful. There were no
instructions to speak of and no support from
the suppliers.</p>
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<div>I read the manual that came with the radio, yes
it was somewhat banged up</div>
<div>English but it got enough information to me to be
able to get the radio up and</div>
<div>going with a minimum of fidgeting.</div>
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<div>I see that most of the issues seem to revolve
around the USB drivers for</div>
<div>windows, but alas, I do not have that issue as I
use Linux. Perhaps a change</div>
<div>of OS? </div>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">When I
add up the hours I have spent and apply a
reasonable hourly rate it becomes obvious
that these radios are not cheap at all.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I
recently read somewhere that recent
handhelds from at least one of the big three
suffers from the same problems. That's it
then - the end of amateur radio is nigh. My
one regret is that me and my UV5R have
contributed to that because I did not return
it for a refund.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">(The
UV5R is not a particularly good radio
anyway. The colour display uses far too much
power and cannot cope with bright sunlight.
Mono displays are generally far better in
both respects, and who really needs colour?)</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">73,
Chris, an Amateur Radio operator since 1973.<br>
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<div>Yes the screens can be hard to read in sunlight,
and you probably do not want</div>
<div>to drop one on concrete, but for the price it
really can't be beat, and I have</div>
<div>a few young people that I think I can get going
to become amateurs because of</div>
<div>these little radios. </div>
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<div>Oh yes it took me perhaps a total of 15 minutes
(not counting the charge time)</div>
<div>to go from box to loaded radio, so I do not
consider that a lot of wasted time.</div>
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<div>Yes there are a lot of issues, but for what I
paid to get on the air with it, it is</div>
<div>chump change. </div>
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<div>I even have 220 mHz on the little box, something
I have never had a real chance</div>
<div>at playing with. </div>
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<div>When I travel for work it is neat to be able to
access 3 bands and get on the</div>
<div>air from the hotel room on those 3 bands. All for
less than $60. Can't beat that.</div>
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<div>And then there is the TYT MD-380, DMR all over
the place, those two radios</div>
<div>have made my amateur radio activity a lot more
universal, so I will take the</div>
<div>"issues" every day if i can get from a device
what I get from those two radios.</div>
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<div>Best regards and above all:</div>
<div>ENJOY!</div>
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<div>Celestial!!!</div>
<div dir="ltr">Chuck -- KP4DJT</div>
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