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    When the prices on Ebay are too good to be true, the "seller" is
    just taking your money and running. This scam comes up constantly,
    and when ebay is notified the listing gets removed. By now, you'd
    think they'd have something in place to stop it, since it's been
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          of the UV-5R, I saw a 'Buy It Now' on Ebay for 11.99 for 2
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Aubrey
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              <p>LOL</p>
              <p>You confused me with the original post.  I thought you
                were trying to link to a UV-5R accessory.  :-)<br>
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                    03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage wrote:<br>
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                        am confused about is that my original post was
                        not about radios at all.</div>
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                        style="font-family:monospace,monospace">It was
                        the fact that I had to pay almost $10 more than
                        my UV-5R for a remote for my Apollo gate.</div>
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                        6:44 AM, Chuck Hast <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                            <div>I just bought one the other day, a
                              UV-5X3</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Mar
                                  21, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F.
                                  Beesley <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                          said it before and I'll say it
                                          again. The whole concept of
                                          programmable devices that can
                                          be programmed to destruction
                                          by interfering with the
                                          'wrong' memory is flawed from
                                          the start and I don't
                                          understand why people buy
                                          them. The whole concept of
                                          programmable devices that
                                          require the use of
                                          non-standard cables which in
                                          turn require the use of
                                          out-of-date drivers on the
                                          programming device is
                                          ridiculous. Why these radios
                                          have gained such a following
                                          is beyond me. Why most of them
                                          have not been returned for
                                          refunds the minute they
                                          exhibit the faults that I have
                                          read about on here time and
                                          time again is also beyond me.
                                          Whatever happened to Plug And
                                          Play?</p>
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                                <div>I removed radio from box, put it on
                                  the charger, and made sure it was
                                  charged.</div>
                                <div>Then I plugged USB device into
                                  computer, and radio started Chirp,
                                  told it</div>
                                <div>what the radio was, downloaded the
                                  original radio data, made a copy and</div>
                                <div>started from there. </div>
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                                          style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">As
                                          an example, even the cheapest
                                          printer has more complex
                                          user-selectable parameters
                                          available than most of the
                                          programmable radios. Printers
                                          come with drivers that work,
                                          with user-friendly
                                          user-interfaces that only
                                          allow the programming of
                                          whatever is sensibly
                                          programmable, and with
                                          hardware interfaces that are
                                          connected to the programming
                                          device via standard cables
                                          available from the average
                                          supermarket down the road.
                                          When I bought my UV5R it came
                                          with a programming cable that
                                          didn't work, and an
                                          incomprehensible CD full of
                                          software that is mostly
                                          useless. When I finally got
                                          something to work the
                                          user-interface to the
                                          spread-sheet lookalike was at
                                          best clunky - I would describe
                                          it as awful. There were no
                                          instructions to speak of and
                                          no support from the suppliers.</p>
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                                <div>I read the manual that came with
                                  the radio, yes it was somewhat banged
                                  up</div>
                                <div>English but it got enough
                                  information to me to be able to get
                                  the radio up and</div>
                                <div>going with a minimum of fidgeting.</div>
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                                <div>I see that most of the issues seem
                                  to revolve around the USB drivers for</div>
                                <div>windows, but alas, I do not have
                                  that issue as I use Linux. Perhaps a
                                  change</div>
                                <div>of OS? </div>
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                                          I add up the hours I have
                                          spent and apply a reasonable
                                          hourly rate it becomes obvious
                                          that these radios are not
                                          cheap at all.</p>
                                        <p
                                          style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I
                                          recently read somewhere that
                                          recent handhelds from at least
                                          one of the big three suffers
                                          from the same problems. That's
                                          it then - the end of amateur
                                          radio is nigh. My one regret
                                          is that me and my UV5R have
                                          contributed to that because I
                                          did not return it for a
                                          refund.</p>
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                                          style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">(The
                                          UV5R is not a particularly
                                          good radio anyway. The colour
                                          display uses far too much
                                          power and cannot cope with
                                          bright sunlight. Mono displays
                                          are generally far better in
                                          both respects, and who really
                                          needs colour?)</p>
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                                          style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">73,
                                          Chris, an Amateur Radio
                                          operator since 1973.<br>
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                                <div>Yes the screens can be hard to read
                                  in sunlight, and you probably do not
                                  want</div>
                                <div>to drop one on concrete, but for
                                  the price it really can't be beat, and
                                  I have</div>
                                <div>a few young people that I think I
                                  can get going to become amateurs
                                  because of</div>
                                <div>these little radios. </div>
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                                <div>Oh yes it took me perhaps a total
                                  of 15 minutes (not counting the charge
                                  time)</div>
                                <div>to go from box to loaded radio, so
                                  I do not consider that a lot of wasted
                                  time.</div>
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                                <div>Yes there are a lot of issues, but
                                  for what I paid to get on the air with
                                  it, it is</div>
                                <div>chump change. </div>
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                                <div>I even have 220 mHz on the little
                                  box, something I have never had a real
                                  chance</div>
                                <div>at playing with. </div>
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                                <div>When I travel for work it is neat
                                  to be able to access 3 bands and get
                                  on the</div>
                                <div>air from the hotel room on those 3
                                  bands. All for less than $60. Can't
                                  beat that.</div>
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                                <div>And then there is the TYT MD-380,
                                  DMR all over the place, those two
                                  radios</div>
                                <div>have made my amateur radio activity
                                  a lot more universal, so I will take
                                  the</div>
                                <div>"issues" every day if i can get
                                  from a device what I get from those
                                  two radios.</div>
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                                <div>Best regards and above all:</div>
                                <div>ENJOY!</div>
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                                        <div>Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools
                                          on Linux</div>
                                        <div>Celestial!!!</div>
                                        <div dir="ltr">Chuck -- KP4DJT</div>
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