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When the prices on Ebay are too good to be true, the "seller" is
just taking your money and running. This scam comes up constantly,
and when ebay is notified the listing gets removed. By now, you'd
think they'd have something in place to stop it, since it's been
going on for a long time.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2018 1:40 PM, Dennis Wage
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of the UV-5R, I saw a 'Buy It Now' on Ebay for 11.99 for 2
radios. New!!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Aubrey
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<p>LOL</p>
<p>You confused me with the original post. I thought you
were trying to link to a UV-5R accessory. :-)<br>
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03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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am confused about is that my original post was
not about radios at all.</div>
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the fact that I had to pay almost $10 more than
my UV-5R for a remote for my Apollo gate.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at
6:44 AM, Chuck Hast <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>I just bought one the other day, a
UV-5X3</div>
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21, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F.
Beesley <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I've
said it before and I'll say it
again. The whole concept of
programmable devices that can
be programmed to destruction
by interfering with the
'wrong' memory is flawed from
the start and I don't
understand why people buy
them. The whole concept of
programmable devices that
require the use of
non-standard cables which in
turn require the use of
out-of-date drivers on the
programming device is
ridiculous. Why these radios
have gained such a following
is beyond me. Why most of them
have not been returned for
refunds the minute they
exhibit the faults that I have
read about on here time and
time again is also beyond me.
Whatever happened to Plug And
Play?</p>
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<div>I removed radio from box, put it on
the charger, and made sure it was
charged.</div>
<div>Then I plugged USB device into
computer, and radio started Chirp,
told it</div>
<div>what the radio was, downloaded the
original radio data, made a copy and</div>
<div>started from there. </div>
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">As
an example, even the cheapest
printer has more complex
user-selectable parameters
available than most of the
programmable radios. Printers
come with drivers that work,
with user-friendly
user-interfaces that only
allow the programming of
whatever is sensibly
programmable, and with
hardware interfaces that are
connected to the programming
device via standard cables
available from the average
supermarket down the road.
When I bought my UV5R it came
with a programming cable that
didn't work, and an
incomprehensible CD full of
software that is mostly
useless. When I finally got
something to work the
user-interface to the
spread-sheet lookalike was at
best clunky - I would describe
it as awful. There were no
instructions to speak of and
no support from the suppliers.</p>
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<div>I read the manual that came with
the radio, yes it was somewhat banged
up</div>
<div>English but it got enough
information to me to be able to get
the radio up and</div>
<div>going with a minimum of fidgeting.</div>
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<div>I see that most of the issues seem
to revolve around the USB drivers for</div>
<div>windows, but alas, I do not have
that issue as I use Linux. Perhaps a
change</div>
<div>of OS? </div>
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">When
I add up the hours I have
spent and apply a reasonable
hourly rate it becomes obvious
that these radios are not
cheap at all.</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I
recently read somewhere that
recent handhelds from at least
one of the big three suffers
from the same problems. That's
it then - the end of amateur
radio is nigh. My one regret
is that me and my UV5R have
contributed to that because I
did not return it for a
refund.</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">(The
UV5R is not a particularly
good radio anyway. The colour
display uses far too much
power and cannot cope with
bright sunlight. Mono displays
are generally far better in
both respects, and who really
needs colour?)</p>
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style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">73,
Chris, an Amateur Radio
operator since 1973.<br>
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<div>Yes the screens can be hard to read
in sunlight, and you probably do not
want</div>
<div>to drop one on concrete, but for
the price it really can't be beat, and
I have</div>
<div>a few young people that I think I
can get going to become amateurs
because of</div>
<div>these little radios. </div>
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<div>Oh yes it took me perhaps a total
of 15 minutes (not counting the charge
time)</div>
<div>to go from box to loaded radio, so
I do not consider that a lot of wasted
time.</div>
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<div>Yes there are a lot of issues, but
for what I paid to get on the air with
it, it is</div>
<div>chump change. </div>
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<div>I even have 220 mHz on the little
box, something I have never had a real
chance</div>
<div>at playing with. </div>
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<div>When I travel for work it is neat
to be able to access 3 bands and get
on the</div>
<div>air from the hotel room on those 3
bands. All for less than $60. Can't
beat that.</div>
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<div>And then there is the TYT MD-380,
DMR all over the place, those two
radios</div>
<div>have made my amateur radio activity
a lot more universal, so I will take
the</div>
<div>"issues" every day if i can get
from a device what I get from those
two radios.</div>
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<div>Best regards and above all:</div>
<div>ENJOY!</div>
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on Linux</div>
<div>Celestial!!!</div>
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