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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Aubrey Turner <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aubrey.c.turner@gmail.com" target="_blank">aubrey.c.turner@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>You confused me with the original post.  I thought you were
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    <div class="m_-4041129514252523237moz-cite-prefix">On 03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">It was the fact that I
          had to pay almost $10 more than my UV-5R for a remote for my
          Apollo gate.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Chuck
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              <div>I just bought one the other day, a UV-5X3</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Mar 21,
                    2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F. Beesley <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:chrisbees2@hotmail.com" target="_blank">chrisbees2@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I&#39;ve
                            said it before and I&#39;ll say it again. The
                            whole concept of programmable devices that
                            can be programmed to destruction by
                            interfering with the &#39;wrong&#39; memory is
                            flawed from the start and I don&#39;t understand
                            why people buy them. The whole concept of
                            programmable devices that require the use of
                            non-standard cables which in turn require
                            the use of out-of-date drivers on the
                            programming device is ridiculous. Why these
                            radios have gained such a following is
                            beyond me. Why most of them have not been
                            returned for refunds the minute they exhibit
                            the faults that I have read about on here
                            time and time again is also beyond me.
                            Whatever happened to Plug And Play?</p>
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                  <div>I removed radio from box, put it on the charger,
                    and made sure it was charged.</div>
                  <div>Then I plugged USB device into computer, and
                    radio started Chirp, told it</div>
                  <div>what the radio was, downloaded the original radio
                    data, made a copy and</div>
                  <div>started from there. </div>
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                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">As an
                            example, even the cheapest printer has more
                            complex user-selectable parameters available
                            than most of the programmable radios.
                            Printers come with drivers that work, with
                            user-friendly user-interfaces that only
                            allow the programming of whatever is
                            sensibly programmable, and with hardware
                            interfaces that are connected to the
                            programming device via standard cables
                            available from the average supermarket down
                            the road. When I bought my UV5R it came with
                            a programming cable that didn&#39;t work, and an
                            incomprehensible CD full of software that is
                            mostly useless. When I finally got something
                            to work the user-interface to the
                            spread-sheet lookalike was at best clunky -
                            I would describe it as awful. There were no
                            instructions to speak of and no support from
                            the suppliers.</p>
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                  <div>I read the manual that came with the radio, yes
                    it was somewhat banged up</div>
                  <div>English but it got enough information to me to be
                    able to get the radio up and</div>
                  <div>going with a minimum of fidgeting.</div>
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                  <div>I see that most of the issues seem to revolve
                    around the USB drivers for</div>
                  <div>windows, but alas, I do not have that issue as I
                    use Linux. Perhaps a change</div>
                  <div>of OS? </div>
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                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">When I
                            add up the hours I have spent and apply a
                            reasonable hourly rate it becomes obvious
                            that these radios are not cheap at all.</p>
                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I
                            recently read somewhere that recent
                            handhelds from at least one of the big three
                            suffers from the same problems. That&#39;s it
                            then - the end of amateur radio is nigh. My
                            one regret is that me and my UV5R have
                            contributed to that because I did not return
                            it for a refund.</p>
                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">(The
                            UV5R is not a particularly good radio
                            anyway. The colour display uses far too much
                            power and cannot cope with bright sunlight.
                            Mono displays are generally far better in
                            both respects, and who really needs colour?)</p>
                          <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">73,
                            Chris, an Amateur Radio operator since 1973.<br>
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                  <div>Yes the screens can be hard to read in sunlight,
                    and you probably do not want</div>
                  <div>to drop one on concrete, but for the price it
                    really can&#39;t be beat, and I have</div>
                  <div>a few young people that I think I can get going
                    to become amateurs because of</div>
                  <div>these little radios. </div>
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                  <div>Oh yes it took me perhaps a total of 15 minutes
                    (not counting the charge time)</div>
                  <div>to go from box to loaded radio, so I do not
                    consider that a lot of wasted time.</div>
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                  <div>Yes there are a lot of issues, but for what I
                    paid to get on the air with it, it is</div>
                  <div>chump change. </div>
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                  <div>I even have 220 mHz on the little box, something
                    I have never had a real chance</div>
                  <div>at playing with. </div>
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                  <div>When I travel for work it is neat to be able to
                    access 3 bands and get on the</div>
                  <div>air from the hotel room on those 3 bands. All for
                    less than $60. Can&#39;t beat that.</div>
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                  <div>And then there is the TYT MD-380, DMR all over
                    the place, those two radios</div>
                  <div>have made my amateur radio activity a lot more
                    universal, so I will take the</div>
                  <div>&quot;issues&quot; every day if i can get from a device
                    what I get from those two radios.</div>
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                  <div>Best regards and above all:</div>
                  <div>ENJOY!</div>
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                          <div>Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux</div>
                          <div>Celestial!!!</div>
                          <div dir="ltr">Chuck -- KP4DJT</div>
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