<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I also don't know what all the fuss is about. My son gave me and his brother UV-5R's for Christmas and after I got my cable off Amazon I was good to go on Windows 10.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">As a side note, I am ready to take my technician test. April 12th. Wish me luck.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I hope to get this vanity call sign. WB3HAM. I am a musician and play the HAMmond B3.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">And I just bought a Heathkit GR-91 of eBay, which was my childhood receiver as a Novice WN9BOQ.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">Dennis M. Wage</span><br></div><font face="courier new, monospace"><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><br></font></div>245 Corum Hill Road<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></font><div><font face="courier new, monospace">Castalian Springs, TN 37031<br></font><div><a value="+16153104242" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(17,85,204)">(615) 310-4242</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"> Cell</span><br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><a value="+16153529159" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">(615) 562-5128</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Home</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="http://hammondb3organ.net/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">http://hammondb3organ.net</a><br></font></div><div><a href="http://overdubs.net" style="font-family:"courier new",monospace;color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px" target="_blank">http://overdubs.net</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Trevor Holyoak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trevor@holyoak.com" target="_blank">trevor@holyoak.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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That is a good point, actually. I haven't had any more difficulty
using my Baofeng cable with Windows than I have with any other plug
in device. In fact, I've had more problems getting an ADB connection
working between Android devices and Windows.<br>
<br>
And upgrading my Yaesu FT-991 isn't much different from doing a BIOS
upgrade on a PC. But I understand that not everyone has had such
experience.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div class="m_7625433384743035757moz-cite-prefix">On 3/23/2018 3:24 PM, Nigel A. Gunn
G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:<br>
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<p>Do not all radio manufacturers, or their dealers, have
programming cables for sale?</p>
<p>Or is it just that most amateurs are too tight to buy the cable
that goes with the radio and want everything on the cheap?</p>
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<p>I would suggest that the driver issue is one for your operating
system supplier, Linux seems to support them all "out of the
box".</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 23 March 2018 at 16:59 Brandon Clark
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<div dir="auto">Not to interrupt this fascinating discussion on
who owns csv files, but to get back to the point . . .
<div dir="auto">As one respondent correctly pointed out, ham
radio is supposed to require some technical attitude. I
think that's true, and that it is a good thing for the
hobby. However, my opinion is that the difficulty of
interfacing with and programming radios exists because the
process is fundamentally overcomplicated and cumbersome, not
because it requires more skill than some hams have. It's
just a bad model for how to accomplish the process, and we
all know it hurts the hobby by discouraging new hams.</div>
<div dir="auto">By comparison, I could buy a <span class="m_7625433384743035757ox-14ccb588b2-money">$50</span> burner phone and a
<span class="m_7625433384743035757ox-14ccb588b2-money">$5</span> USB cord and
interface that phone with any modern computer system to
transfer data. Plug and play. Middle school kids build <span class="m_7625433384743035757ox-14ccb588b2-money">$30</span> raspberry pi
systems that log weather, track motion, and do all kinds of
cool things. But to program a <span class="m_7625433384743035757ox-14ccb588b2-money">$1,000</span> radio I have to
search eBay for a cable, locate drivers somewhere in the
bowels of the internet, and then download an image from the
device. Honestly ask yourself this, if you had to do all
these steps in order to get music downloaded on your phone
how many people would just say, "heck no, it isn't worth
it!" Probably a lot. </div>
<div dir="auto">Ham radio is all about finding challenges;
that's true. But if the hobby is going to survive long term
there has to be accessible avenues to at least get started
in the hobby. HT and mobile rigs can't be using 80's tech
forever, or it will make us look like dinosaurs, and keep
new hams away. Let them build radios from kits, terminate
cables, and make homebrew vacuum tubes from bubble gum and
shot glasses when they get more advanced. </div>
<div dir="auto">Brandon</div>
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