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And .doc is a file extension, not a format. Microsoft commandeered
it to use for saving Word files in a proprietary format, but .doc
was used as a file extension before Microsoft as well.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/2018 8:21 PM, Dan Brown wrote:<br>
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<p>You're equating things that are fundamentally different. Yes,
.doc, .pub, and .ppt are proprietary MS formats (though I don't
believe they've ever taken people to court over them). But .csv
isn't, and never has been--in fact, it's been around longer than
Microsoft has by about three years.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/18 8:56 PM, Nigel A. Gunn
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<p>.CSV, .DOC, .PUB and .PPT definitely are Microsoft
proprietary file formats although Microsoft have now given up
taking people to court trying to protect them. You're right
that they will now open in many different systems (except
.PUB) but often with differing results.</p>
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<p>If you need to be universal, use Open Document Foundation's
file formats.</p>
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<p>Not to be overly pedantic, but CSV is not a
Microsoft-specific format. CSV stands for "Comma Separated
Value" and it's a very simple format. Lots of software can
handle it on all platforms. I can view them even on my
Android phone.</p>
<p>That said, most Windows systems are set up by default to
open a CSV file in Excel, but that doesn't really have
bearing on the format itself. <br>
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<div class="ox-98b5be8a6e-moz-cite-prefix">On 03/22/2018 07:26
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<p>But a csv file is proprietary Microsoft format so can't
use that. Many of us are not on Microsoft operating
systems. And if you make it just like a cellphone, then
you're at the mercy of the radio manufacturer to provide
the programming.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 22 March 2018 at 17:28 Brandon
Clark <a class="ox-98b5be8a6e-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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<div dir="auto">Radios needs to behave like phones, plug
them into the computer with a USB cable and then
simply drag and drop your CSV file into the right
folder for the radio to read it.</div>
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