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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>David, thanks to people like you, I’ve been having job security for 30 years, despite trying to work myself out of a job. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>☹</span> Your advice is dangerous and I recommend ANYONE following it who does get infected based on following your advice to take you to court for damages.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 29, 2018 8:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [chirp_users] [OT] Re: Problems with Norton etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/computing/decrypt-one-box-rule/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/computing/decrypt-one-box-rule/amp/</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>David<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 29, 2018 8:05 AM, "Chuck Hast" <<a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com">kp4djt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Amen brother<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Norton, McAfee, etc, all = Trojan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:53 AM, Dave B via chirp_users <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Quite honestly, I'm amazed anyone still thinks running Norton AV is an acceptable solution to a perceived problem.<br><br>It itself is riddled with inconsistencies and other funnies, plus has a hair trigger for false positives. "Not seen by many users" is NOT a good metric to judge if something is bad or not.<br><br>Windows own Windows Defender, in conjunction with whatever "Security Essentials" is now called is more than adequate for 90+% of users, and the price is right.<br><br>Coupled with the use of "uBlock Origin" in your web browsers, to block the obnoxious nasties in on-line add's, and you'll have a slick fast and more than safe enough system. (Heck, that is even in the MS app store now, as well as Chrome's webstore.)<br><br>The single best AV tool, is common sense... Never, and I mean NEVER <b>NEVER</b> Click on a popup you didn't expect*, or go to a site or download something <b>YOU DID NOT YOURSELF ASK OR GO LOOKING FOR</b>!<br><br>And Never EVER respond to anything in unsolicited (spam) email's, however attractive the proposition may look.<br><br>(* Not even any 'X' close button, that only confirms that they've found a human, and may not even remove the popup. Back out of that website/restart the browser and find another with what you want.)<br><br>Norton AV used to be good, it's now just more bloat-ware, with questionable practices, and not in truth a particularly good user experience.<br><br>As above, the best AV tool, is the wet stuff between your ears. As in all life, if something appears to be too good to be true, it probably is bad for you, your PC, and/or your bank account!<br><br>73.<br><br>Dave G0WBX.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>chirp_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users" target="_blank">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users</a><br>This message was sent to Chuck Hast at <a href="mailto:kp4djt@gmail.com" target="_blank">kp4djt@gmail.com</a><br>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com" target="_blank">chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Celestial!!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chuck -- KP4DJT<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>chirp_users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users" target="_blank">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users</a><br>This message was sent to David at <a href="mailto:n5vtd25@gmail.com">n5vtd25@gmail.com</a><br>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>