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  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>I use my usb to serial adapter to connect to and program Fire alarm panels. I picked up a fantastic adapter recently, works with everything. It's from <a href="http://usconverters.com">usconverters.com</a><br/><br/>-----Original Message-----<br/>From: &quot;Richard B. Emerson&quot; &lt;pavilion@pinefields.com&gt;<br/>To: Discussion of CHIRP &lt;chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com&gt;<br/>Sent: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:53<br/>Subject: Re: [chirp_users] FTDI good - not FTDI bad<br/><br/></div>
    <p>I used Keyspan - Tripplite converters, with Coastal Explorer
      under Win7, for a while. At some point, however, they just didn't
      get the job done. It's a pity, as they were good when they were
      Keyspan products. Gotta wonder if Tripplite "improved" things. <br>
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    <p>73 de KC3DOO<br>
      Rick<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2016 4:10 PM, Jim McCorison
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      For years I have used the Keyspan (now Tripplite) USA-19HS serial
      to USB adapter. It has always worked no matter the operating
      system or software being used. I have customers (I’m in the marine
      electronics business) who have bought cheapy knockoffs and can’t
      get their pc integration to work properly. I sell them a USA-19HS
      and without any other changes, other than the proper driver
      install, everything works just fine. While it is more expensive
      than a $5 Chinese clone, how much do you value your time and peace
      of mind. Is it really worth the frustration with something that is
      supposed to be an enjoyment just to save a few dollars?
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      <div class="">73s,</div>
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            <div class="">On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Pavel Milanes
              (CO7WT) &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:pavelmc@gmail.com" class="">pavelmc@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:</div>
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                I agree.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                recently upgraded my desktop PC board to a Corei5 Asus
                with zero serial ports, I have tested two usb-serial
                adapters (linux OS here) with no joy.<span
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              <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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                ark and the other ch340 chipset, the ch340 work so so,
                but some radios does not work with it, the ark is a
                waste of time, it has only rx/tx and It get stuck
                easily.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                looking desperately for a ftdi adapter here un Cuba.</span><br
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                Pavel CO7WT</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">El 27
                de agosto de 2016 7:42:45 PM GMT-04:00, "Richard B.
                Emerson" &lt;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                class="">pavilion@pinefields.com</a><span
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                escribió:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                class="">Following the traffic here, I think the
                following should be (if it<span
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                isn't) a FAQ item. Nonetheless it bears repeating here:<br
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                FTDI conversion chips and drivers are extremely stable.
                Anything else,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                including Prolific, is a gamble with poor odds. It's
                that simple.<br class="">
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                Background: On our sailboat, I do a number of serial/USB
                conversions.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                This converts (admittedly ancient) NMEA 183 serial data
                from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                instrumentation for a USB port on a laptop running a
                navigation program<br class="">
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                (Coastal Explorer - don't leave port without it).
                Initially I used<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                Prolific-based convertes (what did I know?). Simply put,
                it became one<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                non-stop headache. Data wouldn't come through, drivers
                stopped<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                functioning, etc., etc. I switched to an FTDI-based
                10-port serial/USB<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                converter. The only changes to the system was to plug
                the DB-9 pigtails<br class="">
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                into the new converter and load the FTDI driver. End of
                problems, no<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                crashes, full functionality. To clarify, one port
                services the full<br class="">
                NMEA<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                183 data stream from the autopilot computer (speed
                through the water,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                depth, wind direction and speed, full GPS data stream
                [position, speed<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                over the bottom, direction, GPS status, time of day))
                and the port<br class="">
                sends<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                steering information to the autopilot, waypoint location
                data, and<br class="">
                more.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                Another port sends data to the VHF and SSB radios
                (position, time of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                day) and receives data from the VHF (Digital Selective
                Calling data<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                including emergency data received). Another port sends
                position, time<br class="">
                of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                  class="">
                day, waypoint location data and receives target data
                from the radar<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                including Modified Automatic Radar Plotting Aid data.
                The last active<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                port receives data from the Automatic Identification
                System and an<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                auxiliary GPS receiver (part of the AIS system). (full
                translation of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                "NMEA 183", "waypoint", etc. available off-list)<br
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                <br class="">
                This is a long and probably very boring summary of what
                goes through<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                FTDI devices at a mix of data rates (4800 baud for all
                but the AIS,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                which works at 38400 baud). If the FTDI part fails, life
                gets ugly fast<br class="">
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                (yes, there are backups). I bet a lot on FTDI and have
                no cause to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                regret it. Prolific devices were... my wife wore
                earplugs when the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                converters failed.<br class="">
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                Again, FTDI good - not FTDI bad.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                73 de KC3DOO<br class="">
                Rick<br class="">
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              <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span
                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br
                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"
                class="">
              <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Sent
                from my Android smartphone, please forgive the typos.</span><br
                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"
                class="">
              <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Enviado
                desde mi cell Android, disculpe los errores de
                escritura.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
                font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
                normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
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                class="">
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                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br
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                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">chirp_users
                mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
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                message was sent to K2SON at<span
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                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
                auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"
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